Possible timing belt failure - how do I check it?

[jetich]

We have a 2004 Honda Pilot with 74K miles on it and I have been trying to find a Honda mechanic other than my local dealer (they are scumbags) to do the job. Well, it just so happens that this morning we were heading to church and turned the key and the engine tried to start then it completely stopped. I turned the key again and it only cranked really fast but didn't sound like there was any firing in the engine. I know what it sounds like when a fuel filter is clogged or a fuel pump is dying, and this was completely different. It acted like the motor wasn't connected to anything and the starter motor was just turning a free flywheel. I have basically concluded that the timing belt broke and will need replaced, but how do I check without trying to start it again? Will the 2004 V6 be damaged by trying to turn the engine over again? I am also afraid of giving the keys to the local dealer for fear that they will try to start it then ruin my engine and try to get me to buy a new one from them. The other dealers are over an hour away but I am considering taking the hit on a longer tow to ensure I get quality service and don't get screwed on the repair bill or even worse, having to replace the engine or heads. Any thoughts on checking if it is in fact the belt? And will trying to start it do damage to the engine?

[2010exl]

You need to remove one of the upper timing belt covers. Have some one turn the key to see if the timing belt turns while the engine is cranking. If the timing belt turns, you should be good.

If the Timing belt doesn't turn, but the serpentine belt does, you've got problems. Most likely a broken timing belt.

If the timing belt and the serpentine belt don't turn, most likely you have a bad starter that's not engaging the flywheel properly.

74k, I'm betting on a bad starter.

[robs]

Check the starter first to make sure it's actually engaging and holding the flywheel. Sometimes the solenoid goes out and doesn't hold tight. Pops out and stays out if you will

You could try rotating the crankshaft and see if you feel resistance. Come in through the pass side wheel well and get a long extension. Put the tranny in neutral.

If you suspect the timing belt then taking off the cover is about as sure fire as you get.

good luck!

[whizmo]

I'm with the other posters and think you're probably/hopefully overreacting. You symptoms sound much more like a starter clutch problem than a timing belt breaking.

Replacing/overhauling the starter clutch is a relatively easy fix. Sometimes you can free up the clutch and get it to work by giving the starter a few raps on the side with a hammer.

Any experienced mechanic should be able to diagnose this for you at low cost.

- Mark

[rocky]

Sounds like a bad starter. At least from your description that's my best guess.


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