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Old 01-26-2011, 08:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have just been quoted 180 dollars to replace the fan belt.
Has anyone had this work done, what did it cost?

Seems really high to me but I have never done it before on a pilot.
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the Pilot has an electric fan, so there is no fan belt per se.
How many miles and whats going on to require replacing the accessory belts?
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Old 01-27-2011, 08:30 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I know it's not a fan belt, just an old habit.
It's not really an accessory belt either because water pump, alternator etc are not really accessories, they are essential.
Maybe they should rename it the Essential Serpentine belt.

My pilot has 150,000 Km about 100 000 miles.

Something is making an awefull screeming noise occasionally just after starting the engine. It really sounds more like a bearing but I don't know.
These serpentine belts don't make the same sqeal of a V belt.

Anyway the point is, is it really that difficult to replace this belt?
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I paid $700-something for tbelt, tensioner, accessory belts, water pump. I would think the alternator belt (which I believe also runs the a/c compressor) would be fairly simple. The other accessory belt, the power steering belt, goes around an engine mount, which certainly complicates matters.

Have you tried belt dressing?
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You're coming up for the TB replacement anyway when all this stuff has to come off to gain access. Which makes it a perfect time to replace anyway.

My own experience is that the belt can slip at this kind of mileage simply because its stretched over time or perhaps the tensioner is no longer able to do its job.

P'raps belt dressing is the way to go and just do it at the 105k
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I tried belt dressing mostly to find out if the belt was the problem.
Once a belt needs dressing its time to think about replacing it.

The dealer ran me down pretty good for doing this, of course I'm not impressed.

I should add that I went to the dealer because the air bag warning light is on again. They are the only ones who can read the codes . It turns out another one of my sensors has failed. Again I'm not impressed, but this time with the pilot. So far the dealer and the pilot are batting zero.

So no one knows if 180 dollars is reasonable to replace the belt?
It's the middle of winter here, lots of snow, so I'm not even going to try now.
I may wait a couple months though.
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So no one knows if 180 dollars is reasonable to replace the belt?
It's the middle of winter here, lots of snow, so I'm not even going to try now.
I may wait a couple months though.
I think that's high considering a belt costs about $20 and I replaced it under an hour IIRC. If you're willing to spend $180 I would just save it and use it toward the 105K maintenance.
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So no one knows if 180 dollars is reasonable to replace the belt?
It's the middle of winter here, lots of snow, so I'm not even going to try now.
I may wait a couple months though.
I'm guessing that it would be about average for a quote from a dealer. Say $80-100 for the belt from the dealer and about an hours labor and you're at $180. Part prices in Canada are sometimes triple than what you can find online in the States. If you like, ask them if you can use an aftermarket belt to save some dough. My Toyota dealer asked if I wanted OEM or aftermarket for my Tundra. Saved me $70.

Additionally, just call a couple other dealers if you have more in your area and see what they quote you.
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Just thinking in my mind without checking my pilot doesn't the accessory belt just go around in the left (passanger) side of the engine. First thing that came to me is belt tensioner and and needing to unbolt the engine mount to get new belt on. Other then that isn't it just a matter of holding the tensioner back and routing the belt around the various pulleys? And since it's not a timing belt we don't have to worry about, ... well timing.

If that was the case seems like something anyone can do on a saturday. Or am I missing something? Again just thinking out loud.
Sadly as cold as it is I'd go buy the $20 belt and do it myself right now .

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Well samc
That's what I thought
I'm no mechanic but I've done some timing belts, I've changed engines on cars and lots of other mechanical jobs.
But---- I tried to change the accessory belt on my Toyota last year and I was beat. I could not figure it out. I let the dealer do it.
So without getting right into it, and I can't now, I needed to ask here.
And what I'm hearing so far is that no one has done it.
It might be easy but until I hear a backyard diy'er did it, I won't know.
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The alternator belt, or the serpentine belt, does not go around the engine mount, so it would be a simple matter of pulling back the tensioner and replacing the belt. The power steering belt is the vertical one that just goes around two pulleys, and it DOES go around the engine mount.
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$180 is high. I replaced my serpentine belt myself on my 05 for about $20 with a nice Goodyear Gatorback belt from a parts place like Pep Boys. It was not easy to do because the tensioner is very close to the side of the engine bay and my breaker bar was a very tight fit. I was also not able to get much pull because of the tight confines. It's also realy a 2 person job. One to hold the wrench/breaker bar on the tensioner and one to snake the darn belt through all the various pulleys. I eventually got er done by myself but it was not fun. If you are serious about doing it, get the proper serpentine belt tool which is a very long skinney flat wrench with the proper end on it that will fit easily in tight spots and give you lots more pull and leverage due its longer length. Later, my dealer replaced my timing belt and water pump and replaced the serpentine belt again because they said it was not oem Honda. I got back my slightly used aftermarket belt from them and keep it as a backup for emergencies. If I were you, given your mileage, I would find a coupon for a timing belt/water pump change and have them do the timing belt, water pump and serpentine belt now. The labor for the serpentine belt will be free or already included in the timing belt job. Also, others here should be aware that the 03 and 04 belts are different. The 05 has just one belt. 03 and 04 have more than one belt I believe.

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Thanks mclairmo

That's the exact problem I had with the Toyota. The bolt that needs to be loosened to get the belt off, could not be reached easily. A special tool was required.

I think I'll wait for my belt replacement, I did buy a new Honda belt (60 $) so I'm ready if I need to change it.
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I think that's best. After my timing belt was replaced, my engine was actually a little smoother and noticeably quieter. Also, if they replace the water pump, they will drain and refill the coolant, which means you don't have to do that again. They also replaced my timing belt tensioner because they claimed it was leaking. That added another $100 or so. I figure that's ok since I plan to keep my Pilot forever. However, I nicely complained a little about the added cost and they gave me two free oil change/tire rotation coupons to make me happy. Good luck.
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The alternator belt, or the serpentine belt, does not go around the engine mount, so it would be a simple matter of pulling back the tensioner and replacing the belt. The power steering belt is the vertical one that just goes around two pulleys, and it DOES go around the engine mount.
Is this difficult to change on my 04' Pilot?
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