$35 intake

[Gav]

I found a solution to heat soak...well advertised solutions...

www.thermotec.com/cool-air-tube-heat-shield.html

or this

http://www.thermotec.com/thermo-shield.html

So I guess aluminum/metal would be the way to go then. The pvc pipes are not meant for hot applications. I agree they would break down and get brittle over time. The same goes for the rubber connections. They probably would be ok for a little while though.

[vtecdan]

thanks for finding that stuff ill look into it but does anyone else on this forum have an intake or any other performance mods


also has anyone been down the 1/4mile in there pilot

[N_Jay]

There is nothing to tune (unless you mod the ECU).

A dyno shop will just charge you for running a full throttle dyno test, which is fairly meaningless in real world driving.


BTW, all the pics in your sig are a little annoying.

[vtecdan]

i meant tuneing the ecu and ill get rid of the video

[Gav]

Not sure about ecu tuning. There may be something for the Ridgeline or MDX.

Hondata? perhaps. Call them.

[N_Jay]

Originally posted by vtecdan
i meant tuneing the ecu and ill get rid of the video

What do you mean by "tuning the ECU"?

[moda_way]

Originally posted by vtecdan
i meant tuneing the ecu and ill get rid of the video

Our ECUs are not just something you can plug into and change. There are a few methods by which it can be done. One is to have a shop actually flash your ECU with a custom program. This voids your warranty with Honda and is very expensive to create, which is why Hondata is the only company really good enough. Secondly, you can piggy back an ECU, which takes the signal out of the stock ECU and converts it. This allows you to plug into that piggy backed ECU for custom mappings. Again, this will void your warranty and is EXTREMELY expensive. Do not think for one moment you have an ECU that you can simply plug in an aftermarket tool like ones for Fords, GMs, etc. Honda's ECUs are notoriously difficult. Hondata to date does not focus on any J series motors that I know of with exception to supercharging applications from Comptech, but as mentioned, feel free to call as they are really great guys (Australians mate).

I do have a Hondata reflashed ECU for my TSX's K24 motor, but I have a lot of extra parts on it as well. An example of Dyno SAE corrected figures, the car started out with around 168 whp and it now makes 200 whp after $7k of investment in parts which still keep it normally aspirated. Forced induction would take me into the 230 whp range, but you are exposing many weaknesses in parts designed for lower torque and hp ratings. That would be an addition $5k investment in just the kit, a new ECU reflash, but would not include the cost of parts that would have to be upgraded to handle that kind of power increase.

In the end, the cost-benefit rational of flashing your ECU would translate into $300-$400 per hp gained if a reflash were in existence.

[vtecdan]

im sorry but i know people who have over 275whp with their k20/24 series engines and you spent 7k for 32hp


and for the price im not going to tune my pilot its a suv and i barely have any work done to it if i had a full exhaust, intake manifold heads/cam, transmission i would invest in a tune but im not



and for about $10k you could take a j32 from a acura tl supercharge it and build the motor and drop it in a fwd pilot

[rebturtle]

Although I think you came up with something simple, creative, and cost-efficient, I can see minor flaws. Firstly, there are major areas of turbulence in your setup. Every seam and adaptation from PVC to rubber has a huge internal rough lip to deal with. This is most likely offset by the larger diameter tubing, but for the cost of your setup, it's a very forgivable and benign issue.

The second is not mentioning that allowing more air into the engine will have little to no effect without also freeing up the exhaust also. Don't get me wrong. The first thing I did to my Pilot was add a drop-in K&N filter. The factory intake is made to be quiet and safe (resonators and more restrictive filters), and there are minor gains to be made for changing it. Just remember that an engine is a glorified air pump, and that you can't get any more air into the engine than you can push out of the exhaust. Very few intake mods see their full potential without exhaust mods as well.

Aside from that, I think you did a good job. It helps to get reminders that sometimes the simplest solutions are best.

[vtecdan]

Originally posted by rebturtle
Although I think you came up with something simple, creative, and cost-efficient, I can see minor flaws. Firstly, there are major areas of turbulence in your setup. Every seam and adaptation from PVC to rubber has a huge internal rough lip to deal with. This is most likely offset by the larger diameter tubing, but for the cost of your setup, it's a very forgivable and benign issue.

The second is not mentioning that allowing more air into the engine will have little to no effect without also freeing up the exhaust also. Don't get me wrong. The first thing I did to my Pilot was add a drop-in K&N filter. The factory intake is made to be quiet and safe (resonators and more restrictive filters), and there are minor gains to be made for changing it. Just remember that an engine is a glorified air pump, and that you can't get any more air into the engine than you can push out of the exhaust. Very few intake mods see their full potential without exhaust mods as well.

Aside from that, I think you did a good job. It helps to get reminders that sometimes the simplest solutions are best.

thank you for apreciating my work i am looking to get a custom y pipe and exhaust made for the pilot



when i did the intake on the impala it was barely noticeable until i did the exhaust

[moda_way]

Originally posted by vtecdan
im sorry but i know people who have over 275whp with their k20/24 series engines and you spent 7k for 32hp


and for the price im not going to tune my pilot its a suv and i barely have any work done to it if i had a full exhaust, intake manifold heads/cam, transmission i would invest in a tune but im not



and for about $10k you could take a j32 from a acura tl supercharge it and build the motor and drop it in a fwd pilot

A little different when you are keeping a motor purely NA if you read my post. $7k also involves a lot of suspension work to get that power to the ground as well as some freebies because I had someone design a few parts specifically for the K24 that hadn't been made yet to reduce parasitic loss. Point being, you CANNOT tune a modern Honda ECU without a reflash or a piggy back specific to your stuff. Any way you look at it, though your PVC invention was creative, I admit, it is crap for a solution when you can go out and find aluminum tubing to make a truly decent CAI, which won't give you much in the end anyway; kind of like some fart can tips on a Pilot.

[ED27]

Originally posted by vtecdan
.....i know people who have over 275whp with their k20/24 series engines....

All-motor or FI? Daily driven? Street legal (and when I mean street-legal I mean being able to pass emissions testing in modified form)?

[moda_way]

Originally posted by ED27
All-motor or FI? Daily driven? Street legal (and when I mean street-legal I mean being able to pass emissions testing in modified form)?

He isn't far off actually. There is a turbo/Hondata K-Pro solution out there that will get it there for you. Of course the exhaust is entirely non-stock including the cat and I seriously doubt the inboard CVs will be around much longer, but none-the-less, it would be legal in a few states, but not California. It is inteneded to be a daily, but I think the guy has a few areas to retune to make it more manageable on the street, IF we're talking about the same guy.

[Guiltyr1]

Originally posted by vtecdan
whats the difference betweenthese and mine pesides price and material
http://www.fujitaonline.com/Fujita_S..._p/sr-1919.htm

http://www.knfilters.com/news/news.aspx?ID=164

Do you think since the intake fits the 2006-2007 Ridgeline that all intakes that fit the 2006-2007 Ridgeline will also fit the 2005-2008 PILOT?