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Old 06-10-2007, 11:31 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi All,

I have my 05-Pilot EX and getting 10 MPG or exactly (284 KM >>70.2 Liter)

I am very frustrated from that , please note that the above I am getting it in City driving

Anyone can recommed any solution ?

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Hi All,

I have my 05-Pilot EX and getting 10 MPG or exactly (284 KM >>70.2 Liter)

I am very frustrated from that , please note that the above I am getting it in City driving

Anyone can recommed any solution ?

Thanks
Wissam
Over how many tanks have you measured?

Please give some details on how you collect your data?

Tell us a little about how the Pilot of typically driven.
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Old 06-10-2007, 12:20 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Dear N_Jay,

Thanks for your quick reply ,

I have taken the measurment Twice.
they way I took it , I filled my tank , then reset the counter of trip A and B
then drove the car until the Fuel light is on.
I filled the tank until "full" and it took exactly 70.2 Liters and the meter was reading KM 284 for trip A and B ( equal )

Actually I have no Idea of how Typically drive the Pilot

Appreciate your feeback

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Dear N_Jay,

Thanks for your quick reply ,

I have taken the measurment Twice.
they way I took it , I filled my tank , then reset the counter of trip A and B
then drove the car until the Fuel light is on.
I filled the tank until "full" and it took exactly 70.2 Liters and the meter was reading KM 284 for trip A and B ( equal )

Actually I have no Idea of how Typically drive the Pilot

Appreciate your feeback

thnx
Wissam
Sorry for the typo.
How do YOU typically drive.
Short trips? Lots of stop and Go?
Hard on the accelerator and brakes? Lots of idling?
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Hi All,

I have my 05-Pilot EX and getting 10 MPG or exactly (284 KM >>70.2 Liter)

I am very frustrated from that , please note that the above I am getting it in City driving

Anyone can recommed any solution ?

Thanks
Wissam
I don't believe you are measuring correctly. Even if you raced to every red light and floored it up hills you couldn't get that bad of mileage. I am getting 18 MPG in the city in my '06 EXL. 30 fill ups now since my purchase and the worst tank full I ever measured was 16 MPG.
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Old 06-10-2007, 01:22 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I don't believe you are measuring correctly. Even if you raced to every red light and floored it up hills you couldn't get that bad of mileage. I am getting 18 MPG in the city in my '06 EXL. 30 fill ups now since my purchase and the worst tank full I ever measured was 16 MPG.
Variables non of us know...

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Bling Bling..? 24's doves? or OEM sized tires


Give me the BEST MPG Pilot I bet you I can have it running 10 MPG in no time..

Put 24' rimes, Full sound system (weight does matter), get some dust for the air filter... 10mpg is NOT far fetched depending on other variables..!
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Old 06-10-2007, 02:47 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Dear N_Jay,

Thanks for your quick reply ,

I have taken the measurment Twice.
they way I took it , I filled my tank , then reset the counter of trip A and B
then drove the car until the Fuel light is on.
I filled the tank until "full" and it took exactly 70.2 Liters and the meter was reading KM 284 for trip A and B ( equal )

Actually I have no Idea of how Typically drive the Pilot

Appreciate your feeback

thnx
Wissam
To measure the mileage, you should fill the tank up until the flow flow clicks off. (As it sounds you did). Write down your mileage (or zero the trip odometers as you did) and then drive. When you put gas in again, fill up until the fuel flow clicks off (do not depend on the fuel gage reading full as it sounds you did.) Then divide the miles traveled by the gas used. The only problem I see is your wording sounds like you filled it until the gage said full.

Remember that highway driving is easy to define (say constant 65 mph) but city driving is hard to define, it can range from city driving in Rocky Mount NC to 5:30PM dring on the downtown connector in Atlanta GA (trust me these are worlds apart). The amount of time stoped, the amount of time under hard acceleration (Rocky Mont none, Atlanta plenty at the end of the entrance ramp) all greatly affect the city mileage figure.

Do like has been suggested and keep a log and give it a while, one or two tanks is not a lot.
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1-Variables are as follows :

Total Miles vehicle : 32 373 Miles = 52100 KM
Type of Fuel used : 98 Octaine Super without Plomb.
Temperature range 30 - 45 degrees
Altitude : Sea Level
Surroundings ..City air filter changed by Dealer 2 on Mid Mar-2007
Filter Not changed last Maint. on Mar-2007
Tiers = Factory tiers bredgiston

2- As for my Driving style = not very smooth , may acc. then sudden stop from time to time.
I drive daily around 15 KM as follows : 7.5 KM going and 7.5 coming back ... this is city driving and I pass by 4 traffic signal each way.
some other days I have highway drive for 24 KM but maybe once a week.

3- Filling the Tank , I keep filling untill the gas flow out of the tank
( to ensure that I have Full Full tank)

4-I have rare highway driving , almost I drive in city where the streets are not rocky and no elevations at all .

I used to take my Pilot to the dealer for Maint. every 5000 KM or 3106 Miles.

Yes , I will measure more than Twice and make a comparisons..
This time I am not pressing much on the Accl. and not braking much to see the result now I am aorund half tank and comleted KM 170. =Miles 106.


Do u recommend me to fill my tank and reset the odometers and test in highway from long drive util tank is empty ? by that can I confrim the Milage if it is OK or not ?

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Do u recommend me to fill my tank and reset the odometers and test in highway from long drive util tank is empty ? by that can I confrim the Milage if it is OK or not ?

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No need to drive until empty. Simply drive. The longer you drive the more likely it will represent true mileage. In other words, if you drove 5 miles, and filled up, the difference in where the furl flow cuts off at would make a big difference but if you dirve 250 miles, it won't be as significant.
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A lot of us are getting in the 13-16 range in overall driving, so combine a little of bit noise in a single measurement with conditions not conducive to good mileage, and I could see you could correctly compute 10 mpg. I'd continue to track it, but don't react too much to a single poor showing. The longer period of time you have to compute over, the less noise you'll have.

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Do not fill the tank till gas runs out.
That is OVER filling and will effect MPG and also run the risk of ruining some emission components.

First, Just fill to the first time the nozzle shuts off automatically.

Next, track THREE CONSECUTIVE tanks. This will help average out the inaccuracies of the measurement.

Third, before you complain about MPG, STOP "acc. then sudden stop" driving.
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I do mostly city driving and short trips (less than 10 miles) with the air conditioning on, so my setup is less than ideal. I've had the '06 EX-L since Aug of '06, and except for tanks that we did 6 hour freeway drives, we are typically getting 12-13 mpg. Getting 10 mpg would be a tough thing to do but not out of the realm of posibility.

I do the calculations on about 75% of our fillups so I'd say at least 2 dozen times and it's pretty much always the same.

I should also add that I DO NOT race from red light to red light, in fact I'm rather conservative with an 11 month old in the car. The raammat doesn't help the mpg but it can't hurt that much. It weighs FAR less than another adult passenger.
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Wissam, I just noticed that you are using KM and liters and are apparently converting to miles and gallons. Maybe your conversion factors are off a little? You may want to check them. Jsut a guess.
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Just for comparison, I have an 07' and get all hwy km's 600 to a tank, but A/C on in the city I will be lucky to get close to 500kms to a tank. I think A/C on and REALLY heavy right foot would give some bad numbers! I tend to sit back and relax more in my Pilot
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Wissam, I just noticed that you are using KM and liters and are apparently converting to miles and gallons. Maybe your conversion factors are off a little? You may want to check them. Jsut a guess.
I converted (284 KM >>70.2 Liter) and it actually comes out just over 9.5 mpg.

I'm pretty heavy footed and still haven't had many tanks below 15mpg.
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