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Old 07-22-2006, 11:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Armed with this information I know you'll want to out-drag fellow motorist with more mundane machinery. I just read the Pilot is capable of 0-60 in a shade above 7 seconds and stop the clock in the 1/4 mile at 14.6 seconds, can this be true?

For a SUV that's about 6' tall and weighs 2 tons and is powered by a V6, albeit a Honda VTEC six, is this possible?
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Armed with this information I know you'll want to out-drag fellow motorist with more mundane machinery.
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If you're addressing me personally, you'd be mistaken. That's not why I have a Pilot. But the combination of power, performance, mileage on regular gas, and size, amounts to a sweet spot Honda hit perfectly. I don't know of anything else on the market that comes close, even after 4 years.
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Armed with this information I know you'll want to out-drag fellow motorist with more mundane machinery. I just read the Pilot is capable of 0-60 in a shade above 7 seconds and stop the clock in the 1/4 mile at 14.6 seconds, can this be true?

For a SUV that's about 6' tall and weighs 2 tons and is powered by a V6, albeit a Honda VTEC six, is this possible?
Not sure about that 7.2 second sprint to 60 they provide. I've never seen another source quote it at less than 7.8-8.0 seconds. That seems overly optimistic to me - like they tested it downhill with a tail wind

Not trying to discount the Pilot - it is quick to 60 for a mid-size SUV, and a lot quicker than the competition with V6 power. But in my experience, it's closer to 8-9 seconds without beating the hell out of the transmission.
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14.6 second quarter? Not! Try 16.4 seconds?
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Eventhough I didn't make up those numbers, they do seem made up.

Posting that site, I wanted to see just how much we love our Pilots...

Realistically, around 8 seconds and 16+ for the 1/4 are more realistic. Not that I'd regularly run flat-out from a standstill, it's good to know the Pilot is no slouch. Dragging, especially in a large people mover is kind of nuts..
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In my Truckworld magazine, it stated the 0-60 time for my Pilot was 8.4 seconds. It also stated that a Ford Expedition was near 9 seconds. If you have ever driven the two, the Expedition feels much STRONGER. My Pilot feels very sluggish sometimes, when I commute up to our home in the mountains. I guess you really have to rev the engine at high RPMs to get all those horses out of it.
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In the April 2003 issue, Car and Driver reported a 0-60mph time of 7.6 seconds and 15.9 seconds @ 86mph for the 1/4-mile.
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In the April 2003 issue, Car and Driver reported a 0-60mph time of 7.6 seconds and 15.9 seconds @ 86mph for the 1/4-mile.
But if you do what C&D does to get those times more than once, the tranny will fall out of your Pilot.......... .
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In my Truckworld magazine, it stated the 0-60 time for my Pilot was 8.4 seconds. It also stated that a Ford Expedition was near 9 seconds. If you have ever driven the two, the Expedition feels much STRONGER. My Pilot feels very sluggish sometimes, when I commute up to our home in the mountains. I guess you really have to rev the engine at high RPMs to get all those horses out of it.
It's the higher torque of the 5.4L V8 in the Expedition. If you buy a V6-powered vehicle expecting the torque and capabilities that go along with a V8-powered vehicle, you WILL be dissapointed. But the Pilot will definitely smoke any Ford SUV out there, including the V8 Explorer.
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It's the higher torque of the 5.4L V8 in the Expedition. If you buy a V6-powered vehicle expecting the torque and capabilities that go along with a V8-powered vehicle, you WILL be dissapointed. But the Pilot will definitely smoke any Ford SUV out there, including the V8 Explorer.
[What you said.] Particularly low-end torque. The V8s, and even the V6s you find in other SUVs like the Jeeps, have more torque at lower RPMs (mainly for towing capacity). They kick more off the line giving the impression they're smokin' 0-30, but then, they slug out 30-60. And of course, they get lousy mileage.

The Pilot is more even through the power curve. I bet the pilot's 0-30 time is about the same as its 30-60 time.
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But if you do what C&D does to get those times more than once, the tranny will fall out of your Pilot.......... .
Even with the extra oil jet retrofit kit installed?
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Even with the extra oil jet retrofit kit installed?
C&D does everything they can do to get the best absolute times. The other mags try for a more realistic 0-60 time that you would get in everyday normal driving without abuse. C&D had an article explaining this.

Peruse the MDX sight and search for tranny failures. The Pilot is the about only vehicle in the Honda V6 lineup that did not experience a large number of tranny failures. The Pilot was released with the 2001/2002 MDX tranny that fails a lot. The oil jet kit addresses a specific identified problem with the trannies but the failures are not limited to that failure mode at all. It's not at all uncommon to find people who have had multiple tranny replacements (especially with the TL/CLs). In 2003, the MDX tranny was redesigned and while failures were though to have stopped, there are a number of people starting to post problems with the 2003 trannies. I believe the Pilot now has the updated tranny. Honda/Acura really needs to redesign the whole tranny as they are increasing vehicle size and HP as they redesign - the new MDX is larger and has more HP.
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t's the higher torque of the 5.4L V8 in the Expedition. If you buy a V6-powered vehicle expecting the torque and capabilities that go along with a V8-powered vehicle, you WILL be dissapointed. But the Pilot will definitely smoke any Ford SUV out there, including the V8 Explorer.
Yeah, until you come to a hill, and that V8 Exploder will leave our Pilots in the dust.

If Ford makes good on putting a smaller diesel in the Expdeition or F150, we may be leaving the Honda fold.
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Yeah, until you come to a hill, and that V8 Exploder will leave our Pilots in the dust.

If Ford makes good on putting a smaller diesel in the Expdeition or F150, we may be leaving the Honda fold.
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Nah. I've left too many Explorers behind on the Seven Mountains up on my way to State College (PennState) to know that's not true.
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If you have ever driven the two, the Expedition feels much STRONGER. My Pilot feels very sluggish sometimes, when I commute up to our home in the mountains. I guess you really have to rev the engine at high RPMs to get all those horses out of it.
Your Pilot should not feel sluggish at all.
You may want to have it checked.
I once had an episode of sluggish acceleration with my Pilot. It sometimes felt as if it were pulling a heavy load and that I needed to step more on the gas pedal to get it up to speed.
The dealer found a faulty egr valve and an oxygen sensor.
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