Not your typical what tire question.

[Eatskittens]

Hello all just found the forum recently so I joined up. For my first post I have a couple tire questions. My 06 pilot EX came with bridgestone tires stock and I ran them to about 33K. After that i put on pirelli scorpion sra. I really liked the tread pattern for our brutal Maine winter. They looked quiet and stable. However here's what I found. I hate them for several reasons. they don't wear well the alignment on my rig is up to par and rotations are done every oil change yet the inside are wearing extremely fast compared to the rest of the tire. So now they are noisey as all get out. Also they flat spot everytime i park the car over night or even during the workday. If the Pilot sits in the driveway overnight and I get in it the tires thump for the first 10 or 15 minutes of driving until the flat spots come out. And my final complaint is I was getting 20-22 mpg with mostly highway driving. Now i get 18-20 with these tires. So my question to you folks would be when I can get out of these tires what experience does everyone have that gets me a decent all season traction quiet even wear and better fuel mileage? I have read a lot of your tire posts and no one seems to address mileage effects from tire replacement. Opinions......Experiences....?

[robrecht]

Michelin Cross Terrains are very good tires and they're very light weight for their performance. Properly inflated, they should probably give you decent gas mileage. I don't know your tires but I'm willing to bet they're heavier. Rotational weight is heavier. Unsprung rotational weight at the corners will also negatively affect handling and comfort. Also, sounds like maybe you have too much camber on your current alignment. Good luck!

[sblvro]

use the search button

[Eatskittens]

While I had stated that I had used the search feature and had not found the answers I needed. I also thought to include the information about the current tire I have in case someone else may be considering them for purchase. In which case I would recommend not to purchase them.

In reference to the Cross Terrains have you personally used them in snowy conditions(on pilot or other vehicle) and what were your findings?

[sblvro]

Originally posted by Eatskittens
While I had stated that I had used the search feature and had not found the answers I needed. I also thought to include the information about the current tire I have in case someone else may be considering them for purchase. In which case I would recommend not to purchase them.

In reference to the Cross Terrains have you personally used them in snowy conditions(on pilot or other vehicle) and what were your findings?

have not used cross terrains only A/T REvo's then now H/L alenza which is very quiet, less or non-existent abnormal wear pattern because of the thick side thread and since it a size bigger 245/75-16 gas mileage is down a little.

[robrecht]

Originally posted by Eatskittens
While I had stated that I had used the search feature and had not found the answers I needed. I also thought to include the information about the current tire I have in case someone else may be considering them for purchase. In which case I would recommend not to purchase them.

In reference to the Cross Terrains have you personally used them in snowy conditions(on pilot or other vehicle) and what were your findings?

No, we have the GY TripleTreds, which are great but rather heavy. I was attracted to the Michelin Cross Terrains because of their light weight but mainly because they have long been a huge favorite of many, many Pilot owners here.

[xGS]

Originally posted by Eatskittens


So my question to you folks would be when I can get out of these tires what experience does everyone have that gets me a decent all season traction quiet even wear and better fuel mileage?

Michelin LTX M/S still offers the best combination of winter traction, smooth/quiet ride, lower rolling resistance/higher fuel mileage and long treadlife.

[Eatskittens]

While I am not a fan of the price on LTX's I think that may be the route I go. I had that tire on my 98 chevy pickup and loved it.

[robrecht]

Originally posted by Eatskittens
While I am not a fan of the price on LTX's I think that may be the route I go. I had that tire on my 98 chevy pickup and loved it.

Can't go wrong with that tire, but just note they are a little heavier (32-33 lbs, depending on which version) than the 26-lb.* white letter Cross Terrains on sale now at Tire Rack for $129. This is close to the weight of the stock, crappy GY Integrities, which are 27 lbs.

Your stock Bridgestones were 32 lbs and your Pirelli Scorpions are 33-37 lbs, depending on the model.

*Note that the non-sale $145 black wall version of the Cross Terrains are listed at 29 lbs. Don't know why there's a discrepancy since none of the listed specs are different except for the lettering.

[Mainer]

Originally posted by Eatskittens


In reference to the Cross Terrains have you personally used them in snowy conditions(on pilot or other vehicle) and what were your findings?

I'm very happy with my cross terrains and I live in Maine

[Nathan_P]

Originally posted by Eatskittens
In reference to the Cross Terrains have you personally used them in snowy conditions(on pilot or other vehicle) and what were your findings?

I have Michelin Cross Terrains and they are great in the snow. We had a couple 4-6" snow/ice storms last winter and my tires performed very well. I don't recall slipping/spinning even once.

[youbetcha]

Originally posted by robrecht
No, we have the GY TripleTreds, which are great but rather heavy. I was attracted to the Michelin Cross Terrains because of their light weight but mainly because they have long been a huge favorite of many, many Pilot owners here.

How do you know how much these tires weigh, comparitively? Is this information somewhere online?

[robrecht]

Originally posted by youbetcha


How do you know how much these tires weigh, comparitively? Is this information somewhere online?

Tire Rack now lists tire weights in their specs for each of the tires they sell. For other tires not sold by Tire Rack (Toyo, Falken, etc), I usually rely on information from manufacturers' websites.

I am a big fan of reducing unsprung weight, especially rotational unsprung weight at the corners. Improved gas mileage and a comfortable ride are nice side effects, but primarily I'm interested in improving handling, especially on rough road surfaces. I have a "mountain" commute in rural New Jersey and we vacation a lot at our place in the Adirondacks, where road surfaces tend to be rough and twisty. Wheel, brake, and tire weight is not as critical on the heavy Honda Pilot, but on my little Miata it is much more noticable. For example, it has 6.5-lb wheels, which I love!!!