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Old 06-24-2008, 10:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Thumbs up Choosing between Michelin Cross Terrains and BFG Long Trail - Costco has decent deals

Costco carries both and has $60 cash back on both till this sunday. Price difference seems to be pretty significant approx $300.
Out of the door price for Michelin Cross Terrains ($762) and BFG Long Trail ($467). Take additional $60 off before this Sunday.

As summmer tires, anyone has experience with both Michelin Cross Terrains and BFG Long Trail?
How are they in terms of ride comfort, road noise, handling etc ?
Costco says Michelin are the best....is it worth the extra $300
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Old 06-24-2008, 10:44 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The price difference may not be $300. Looks like in BFG's there are 1 or 2 different types avaialble. $460 one is mainly for trucks...there is another one made for SUV's and minivans which will add another $50 or more
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See the graph in this thread that I've been active in....

BFG seems to perform a lot worse than the CT.

http://hondapilot.org/forums/showthr...threadid=21681
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I have always preferred Michelins, but it may not be a rational decision.

How many of us really get to try multiple types of tires on the same vehicle.

At best most go from one brand of worn out tires to another brand of brand new tires and say "They are much better".
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Thumbs up Michelins

I never tried the BF Goodrich Long Trails, though I was considering them also when I looked at tires and they didn't seem bad. I ended up getting Michelin Cross Terrains, largely from what people on this board and others said, (and because I had two flats from running over something and had to get new tires quick). After about 2 weeks, am very happy with them, they seem a lot beter than my GY Integrities on highways, dirt and suburban streets. I tried a few on-ramps at speed (relative) and they were stable, and the noise is non-existent. They're quiet.

Keep researching, there are other sites with tire reviews, like 1010 tires, but I think the Michelins are worth it. (They were around $800 at Sears, with road hazard warranty, etc.)
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See the graph in this thread that I've been active in....

BFG seems to perform a lot worse than the CT.

http://hondapilot.org/forums/showthr...threadid=21681

Thanks for the tread link....As per the CR ratings, Michelin Cross Terrains and BFG Long Trail are at the bottom ifact BFG is the worst
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The BFGoodrich Long Trail T/A Tour available at Costco is a brand new tire different from the Radial Long Trail T/A that was rated at the bottom of the CR test. Unlike the Michelin CrossTerrain or LTX M/S, it is constructed with a spiral wrap (cap ply) [item #1 in the picture, below] which should be considered essential in a hot climate like that of Arizona. Note that the LTX M/S made for the Touring version of the 2009 Pilot does have a cap ply.
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I wonder if the Michelin CT are also more stiff so you will get a stable and firmer ride?

I have the Bridgestone that came with the car, there not really good tires but aren't as bad as I though it would be though.
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I wonder if the Michelin CT are also more stiff so you will get a stable and firmer ride?
I went from the OEM Integrity's to the Michelin CT's, and the ride improved noticeably. I wouldn't say a firmer ride, but better traction on wet and slippery roads for sure.

I don't know if the Bridgestone to CT step-up would be as dramatic.

I would like to point out that I replaced the CT's for Fortera's at 28k miles, due to 2 flats and premature (IMO) wear. So don't count on getting 50k out of them; or if you do, sign up for the road hazard and any other warranty you can get your hands on.
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I would like to point out that I replaced the CT's for Fortera's at 28k miles, due to 2 flats and premature (IMO) wear. So don't count on getting 50k out of them; or if you do, sign up for the road hazard and any other warranty you can get your hands on.
My CTs have are coming up on 60K miles with normal wear (and a good bit of tread left) and no flats.
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[i]My CTs have are coming up on 60K miles with normal wear (and a good bit of tread left) and no flats. [/B]
I KNEW my wife was lying about that afternoon drag racing...!!!
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I KNEW my wife was lying about that afternoon drag racing...!!!
What do you keep them inflated to?
How often do you check them?
How often do you rotate them?
Do you have any uneven wear?
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I went from the OEM Integrity's to the Michelin CT's, and the ride improved noticeably. I wouldn't say a firmer ride, but better traction on wet and slippery roads for sure.

I don't know if the Bridgestone to CT step-up would be as dramatic.

I would like to point out that I replaced the CT's for Fortera's at 28k miles, due to 2 flats and premature (IMO) wear. So don't count on getting 50k out of them; or if you do, sign up for the road hazard and any other warranty you can get your hands on.
Yikes, only 28K on the CT's?! That's terrible, were they wore out or did you replace them early?

I had one nail in a CT with 5K miles on it. The nail went right in the sidewall so I got the tire replaced under the road hazzard warranty. I think it was around $20 or so for the new tire.

Not sure how my wife managed to get a finish nail in the sidewall, very odd
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Not sure how my wife managed to get a finish nail in the sidewall, very odd
I don't know how long you have been married, but after 25 years, I have learned that wives can do things that seem impossible to us mere mortals.
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What do you keep them inflated to?

Manufacturers recommendation + 2-3 psi


How often do you check them?

Every 2 weeks


How often do you rotate them?

Every 7,500


Do you have any uneven wear?

Nope; just premature wearing down of the tread. They were still serviceable, but once I had 2 flats repaired (with plugs) and those 2 tires had to stay on the rear of the car, I was also concerned about safety. I loved them for the first 25k, but just started to notice a decline in performance that bothered me with a wife and kids in the car every day.
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