Pilot vs Lincoln Aviator - Honda Pilot

Lanae · 11-13-2002, 10:08 AM

I was wondering if anyone has compared the pilot and the new lincoln aviator---I know the aviator is more expensive but after adding the accessories to the pilot there isn't much of a difference to me. Any info?

Sage · 11-13-2002, 10:14 AM

Hi Lanae...

Can't make the comparison, not familiar with the Aviator.
Just wanted to welcome you to the group!

N_Jay · 11-13-2002, 10:30 AM

Maybe I am wrong, but even if I am not, at the end of the day you still have a Ford.

Commuter · 11-13-2002, 10:39 AM

Isn't the Aviator just a heavily optioned Explorer?

N_Jay · 11-13-2002, 10:50 AM

Ford is learning from Honda how to make more than one vehicle aimed at different market segments from one platform.
Yes they are the same platform, and probably have more similarities than the MDX and Pilot, but are much different than any of the current GM (or '80s Chrysler) twins!

BerkshirePilot · 11-13-2002, 11:16 AM

I am trading in my 1996 Exploder for a new Pilot. After 5 years...the paint is started coming off (peeling, delaminating, cracking) the vehicle on all horizontal surfaces. Ford calls this "microchecking" and it is due to a latent factory defect.
I was going to sue them in small claims...but on Monday the Honda dealer gave me an offer I could not refuse. So I am cutting my losses and warning others. You can find all sorts of information
on Ford's paint problems on the Internet.

My life quest is now to warn others...to stay away from Ford.

Dallas · 11-13-2002, 02:55 PM

Car and Driver really praised the Aviator. Saying it was the best Explorer spin-off. The interior looks beautiful. If it were the same price as a Pilot, I would have atleast considered it.

but it's much more expensive

It's competition will be stiff!
MDX
Toureg
Volvo's SUV
etc.

If the quality hold out, then I'm sure it'll do very well.

Dallas

mikmax1 · 11-13-2002, 03:39 PM

I did a little research. That thing can almost hit $48K. Heck it is up there where the Navigator used to be.

gopilot · 11-13-2002, 04:16 PM

I am so afraid I tune the channel when I see Ford/GM commercials!

Lanae · 11-14-2002, 10:31 AM

The aviator is a downsized Navigator---which I have and love, but the kids are older and driving themselves so I thought I would get something smaller but still have enough seats for 6-7. I like the pilot but all these problems worry me...and "my" pilot has been coming for over 3 months now...I ordered a sandstone w/ nav and hope to add the dvd, etc. Any suggestions?

N_Jay · 11-14-2002, 10:35 AM

It is marketed as a down sized Navegator.
It is a Navigator styled Explorer.

mikmax1 · 11-14-2002, 02:49 PM

My Stinking rich neigbor downgraded uh...er upgraded to an MDX from a Navigator due to problems and less hulk. Not that money bothers him, but I think he also has an extra 10K in his pocket now.

tigmd99 · 11-15-2002, 07:59 PM

Hey all,

Here is some info on the Aviator:

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/showth...s=&threadid=10

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11-13-2002, 10:08 AM	#1 (permalink)
Lanae Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: PA Posts: 9 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Pilot vs Lincoln Aviator I was wondering if anyone has compared the pilot and the new lincoln aviator---I know the aviator is more expensive but after adding the accessories to the pilot there isn't much of a difference to me. Any info?

11-13-2002, 10:14 AM	#2 (permalink)
Sage Super Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Southwest Florida Posts: 1,547 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hi Lanae... Can't make the comparison, not familiar with the Aviator. Just wanted to welcome you to the group! __________________ '03 Honda Pilot EXL - 30,808 - Sage Brush, Lower Trim w/Chrome & Fogs, Running Boards, Auto D/N Mirror, Cross Bars, Bumper & Mirror Chrome, Rear Splash, Cargo Tray, Cargo Organizer, All Season Mats, Back-up Sensors.

11-13-2002, 10:30 AM	#3 (permalink)
N_Jay Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Chicago, NW Burbs Posts: 13,555 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I thought the Aviator was $40K+ Maybe I am wrong, but even if I am not, at the end of the day you still have a Ford. __________________ However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results. Sir Winston Churchill

11-13-2002, 10:50 AM	#5 (permalink)
N_Jay Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Chicago, NW Burbs Posts: 13,555 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	No way Ford is learning from Honda how to make more than one vehicle aimed at different market segments from one platform. Yes they are the same platform, and probably have more similarities than the MDX and Pilot, but are much different than any of the current GM (or '80s Chrysler) twins! __________________ However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results. Sir Winston Churchill

11-13-2002, 10:39 AM	#4 (permalink)
Commuter Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Posts: 57 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Isn't the Aviator just a heavily optioned Explorer?

11-13-2002, 11:16 AM	#6 (permalink)
BerkshirePilot Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Berkshires Posts: 4 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Be afraid, be very afraid of Ford products I am trading in my 1996 Exploder for a new Pilot. After 5 years...the paint is started coming off (peeling, delaminating, cracking) the vehicle on all horizontal surfaces. Ford calls this "microchecking" and it is due to a latent factory defect. I was going to sue them in small claims...but on Monday the Honda dealer gave me an offer I could not refuse. So I am cutting my losses and warning others. You can find all sorts of information on Ford's paint problems on the Internet. My life quest is now to warn others...to stay away from Ford. __________________ Silver Pilot EX-L on order

11-13-2002, 02:55 PM	#7 (permalink)
Dallas Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta Posts: 80 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Car and Driver really praised the Aviator. Saying it was the best Explorer spin-off. The interior looks beautiful. If it were the same price as a Pilot, I would have atleast considered it. but it's much more expensive It's competition will be stiff! MDX Toureg Volvo's SUV etc. If the quality hold out, then I'm sure it'll do very well. Dallas __________________ Sagebrush EX-L Nav with Wonder Woman hanging from the rearview mirror. Yep...gay.

11-13-2002, 03:39 PM	#8 (permalink)
mikmax1 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Western Chicago Suburbs Posts: 148 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	$Aviator$ I did a little research. That thing can almost hit $48K. Heck it is up there where the Navigator used to be. __________________ SS EXL-RES, Flaps, Running Boards. And from Tim; Floor mats, Cargo cover, Wheel locks and Key Chain.

11-13-2002, 04:16 PM	#9 (permalink)
gopilot Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Terrace B.C. Canada Posts: 991 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I am so afraid I tune the channel when I see Ford/GM commercials! __________________ Always a Honda ( 2003 Havasu Blue EX-L) Still a Honda( 2011 Crystal Black Pearl Touring)

11-14-2002, 10:31 AM	#10 (permalink)
Lanae Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: PA Posts: 9 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The aviator is a downsized Navigator---which I have and love, but the kids are older and driving themselves so I thought I would get something smaller but still have enough seats for 6-7. I like the pilot but all these problems worry me...and "my" pilot has been coming for over 3 months now...I ordered a sandstone w/ nav and hope to add the dvd, etc. Any suggestions?

11-14-2002, 10:35 AM	#11 (permalink)
N_Jay Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Chicago, NW Burbs Posts: 13,555 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	No it is not It is marketed as a down sized Navegator. It is a Navigator styled Explorer. __________________ However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results. Sir Winston Churchill

11-14-2002, 02:49 PM	#12 (permalink)
mikmax1 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Western Chicago Suburbs Posts: 148 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Navigator downgrade My Stinking rich neigbor downgraded uh...er upgraded to an MDX from a Navigator due to problems and less hulk. Not that money bothers him, but I think he also has an extra 10K in his pocket now. __________________ SS EXL-RES, Flaps, Running Boards. And from Tim; Floor mats, Cargo cover, Wheel locks and Key Chain.

11-15-2002, 07:59 PM	#13 (permalink)
tigmd99 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 5 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hey all, Here is some info on the Aviator: http://www.toyota-4runner.org/showth...s=&threadid=10 __________________ Thai 2002 Toyota 4Runner Limited 4X4 Bilstein HD shocks Towing Package TRD Transmission Cooler BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A® KO LT265/75R16D Extended Rear Differential Breather (27" Fording Depth)

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