Initial Oil Change - Honda Pilot

gupt0014 · 08-05-2002, 11:25 AM

I'm curious as to how many of you will wait the full 7500 miles before initial oil change???

xyzzy · 08-06-2002, 11:20 AM

I'll be changing at 5,000 miles. Out with the break-in 5w20 and in with the Mobil-1 5w30.

Chris

jay · 08-10-2002, 06:42 PM

first change yesterday at 3515, (a little early). Next one at 7500 or so.

jay · 08-10-2002, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xyzzy
I'll be changing at 5,000 miles. Out with the break-in 5w20 and in with the Mobil-1 5w30.

Chris

Mobil makes the 5W-20 for Honda. Not gonna wait for 5w20 Mobil1, rumored to be coming out?

davemac · 08-10-2002, 06:48 PM

3600 miles Pennzoil 5-20. Dealer said New England considered "extreme" climate, thus manual recommended 3500 interval. Changed myself, no problems, had ordered 1/2 dozen filters, oil plug washers from Tim.

FOB · 08-10-2002, 11:07 PM

Oil change on the first interval is a tuffy, arguments for both sides but here's my thought. Have built several engines and have always changed oil no more that 500 miles the for the first time. Supposidly their are breakin additives from the factory? I've owned several motorcycles(all Jap) and very rairly went over 1000 miles between oil changes. If you baby the vehicle change the oil later in the miliage to allow proper seating of the rings. If you drive it like you stole it on a regular bassis change it early and often! Besides have you ever seen the stuff that comes out of the motor on the first oil change? I'ts like changing a babies first diaper, oooooh!

vegasdude · 08-10-2002, 11:14 PM

I did not get my PILOT today........hopefully tomorrow.

btw, why not wait 7,500 per honda? just curious why you folks deviated.

srpbep · 08-11-2002, 08:18 PM

Hey guys, our MDX manuals clearly state to WAIT on the 1st oil change!! I checked with dealer and got the SAME wait suggestion. MDX forum had discussion and IMHO, the concensus was to WAIT.

I believe that this has something to do with "stuff" added to the original oil to help with break-in.

By the by, our 2001 Accord had the SAME WAIT recommendation.

FWIW

davemac · 08-11-2002, 08:22 PM

following up my earlier post (changed at 3600 miles, per dealer rec). Not sure if the break in additive effects look of the oil, but what I drained, sure looked ready to come out.

xyzzy · 08-11-2002, 08:28 PM

Actually, for "break-in" oil it's a matter of what they don't put in it. They leave out the detergents and anti-wear agents that you get in the stuff you buy off the shelf. This allows for the rings to seat properly in fewer miles, thus reducing your engine break-in time.

Chris

Dano · 08-12-2002, 07:54 PM

waiting until 7500 or so. figure follow what the book says. . .

Spartanman · 08-12-2002, 11:44 PM

I'm going to follow Honda's recommendation. 7500 first change. Every 3500-4000 thereafter.

I'm so used to 3 months 3000 miles though. It's a tough habit to break.

srpbep · 08-13-2002, 12:26 AM

The "don't change for 7,500" is only for the factory break-in oil.

More frequent changing and/or synthetic oil beyond 7,500 is probably a good investment in my opinion.

vegasdude · 08-13-2002, 12:56 AM

Don't have my pilot yet hopefully in a few days but the dealer was giving me a 3 years free oil change. After the 7500 first oil change, will it be every 3000 after that?

xyzzy · 08-13-2002, 07:49 AM

Vegasdude,

Your dealer could possibly only offer this to you at 7500 mile intervals, or at most 3750. I could be wrong, but thats usually how those deals work from my experience. YMMV.

Chris

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08-05-2002, 11:25 AM	#1 (permalink)
gupt0014 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 152 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Initial Oil Change I'm curious as to how many of you will wait the full 7500 miles before initial oil change??? __________________ '03 Starlight Silver EX-L...Rear Splash Guards, Cargo Tray, All-Season Mats, Trailer Hitch, 3M Invisible Nose Mask, K&N Performance Air and Oil Filters, Mobil1 Oil-

08-06-2002, 11:20 AM	#2 (permalink)
xyzzy Super Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Alexandria, KY Posts: 920 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'll be changing at 5,000 miles. Out with the break-in 5w20 and in with the Mobil-1 5w30. Chris __________________ 2004 Audi S4 Sedan (340hp of pure pleasure) 2000 Toyota Sienna 2001 Volusia 800

08-10-2002, 06:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
jay Super Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Manassas, VA Posts: 11,116 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	first change yesterday at 3515, (a little early). Next one at 7500 or so. __________________ 2012 Toyota Highlander Hybrid Limited "When you get to the fork in the road, take it." --Yogi Berra

08-10-2002, 06:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
davemac Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NE Mass Posts: 385 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	3600 miles Pennzoil 5-20. Dealer said New England considered "extreme" climate, thus manual recommended 3500 interval. Changed myself, no problems, had ordered 1/2 dozen filters, oil plug washers from Tim. __________________ current: '11 Acura MDX previous: '11 Pilot EX-L '04 Pilot EX-L '03 Pilot EX-L

08-10-2002, 11:07 PM	#6 (permalink)
FOB Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: ny Posts: 12 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	oil change Oil change on the first interval is a tuffy, arguments for both sides but here's my thought. Have built several engines and have always changed oil no more that 500 miles the for the first time. Supposidly their are breakin additives from the factory? I've owned several motorcycles(all Jap) and very rairly went over 1000 miles between oil changes. If you baby the vehicle change the oil later in the miliage to allow proper seating of the rings. If you drive it like you stole it on a regular bassis change it early and often! Besides have you ever seen the stuff that comes out of the motor on the first oil change? I'ts like changing a babies first diaper, oooooh! __________________ FRANK

08-10-2002, 11:14 PM	#7 (permalink)
vegasdude Super Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 389 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I did not get my PILOT today........hopefully tomorrow. btw, why not wait 7,500 per honda? just curious why you folks deviated.

08-11-2002, 08:18 PM	#8 (permalink)
srpbep Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 81 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hey guys, our MDX manuals clearly state to WAIT on the 1st oil change!! I checked with dealer and got the SAME wait suggestion. MDX forum had discussion and IMHO, the concensus was to WAIT. I believe that this has something to do with "stuff" added to the original oil to help with break-in. By the by, our 2001 Accord had the SAME WAIT recommendation. FWIW __________________ '02 White MDX Touring Nav '01 White Accord V6

08-11-2002, 08:22 PM	#9 (permalink)
davemac Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NE Mass Posts: 385 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	following up my earlier post (changed at 3600 miles, per dealer rec). Not sure if the break in additive effects look of the oil, but what I drained, sure looked ready to come out. __________________ current: '11 Acura MDX previous: '11 Pilot EX-L '04 Pilot EX-L '03 Pilot EX-L

08-11-2002, 08:28 PM	#10 (permalink)
xyzzy Super Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Alexandria, KY Posts: 920 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Actually, for "break-in" oil it's a matter of what they don't put in it. They leave out the detergents and anti-wear agents that you get in the stuff you buy off the shelf. This allows for the rings to seat properly in fewer miles, thus reducing your engine break-in time. Chris __________________ 2004 Audi S4 Sedan (340hp of pure pleasure) 2000 Toyota Sienna 2001 Volusia 800

08-12-2002, 07:54 PM	#11 (permalink)
Dano Super Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 481 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	waiting until 7500 or so. figure follow what the book says. . . __________________ Dano 2003 SS Pilot EX-L

08-12-2002, 11:44 PM	#12 (permalink)
Spartanman Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Suburban Chicago Posts: 143 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'm going to follow Honda's recommendation. 7500 first change. Every 3500-4000 thereafter. I'm so used to 3 months 3000 miles though. It's a tough habit to break.

08-13-2002, 12:26 AM	#13 (permalink)
srpbep Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 81 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	7,500 The "don't change for 7,500" is only for the factory break-in oil. More frequent changing and/or synthetic oil beyond 7,500 is probably a good investment in my opinion. __________________ '02 White MDX Touring Nav '01 White Accord V6

08-13-2002, 12:56 AM	#14 (permalink)
vegasdude Super Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 389 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Don't have my pilot yet hopefully in a few days but the dealer was giving me a 3 years free oil change. After the 7500 first oil change, will it be every 3000 after that?

08-13-2002, 07:49 AM	#15 (permalink)
xyzzy Super Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Alexandria, KY Posts: 920 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Vegasdude, Your dealer could possibly only offer this to you at 7500 mile intervals, or at most 3750. I could be wrong, but thats usually how those deals work from my experience. YMMV. Chris __________________ 2004 Audi S4 Sedan (340hp of pure pleasure) 2000 Toyota Sienna 2001 Volusia 800

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