Do you think that this post made by jdeanski here in this forum is discriminatory?
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Gays, like any other minority should not be discriminated because of their sexual preference, however marriage is a tradition between a man and a women as old as time itself. I see no problems with extending the legal protections of a committed couple to a pair of gays, just make it a legal agreement but don't call it marriage.
Being gay is contrary to the laws of nature, it should be considered as a disability, but it does happen through no fault of their own.
I have. But you better be careful about the year. The definition of "normal" is always in flux, and what today is not considered a deviation from normal, was so in that past, and only the future will know the next definition.
I always find it "interesting" when someone professing a liberal point of view, supporting gay rights and freedoms, uses the acquisitions (or subtle references) as in insult.
It is like the "Not that there is anything wrong with that" line people tag on to the end.
It rings like the old "Sure I have black friends" line.
But, I guess that type of thinking is acceptable from the left (just not by the left when from the right).
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It doesn't matter how aggressive you want to appear here, you are definitely showing your Gay side here. If you would have a minimum knowledge about Psychology you would understand what I am talking about. By the way, Its nothing to be embarresed (sic) about.
Pick up a psychology book my friend, dont be so scared.
N_Jay said:
I have. But you better be careful about the year. The definition of "normal" is always in flux, and what today is not considered a deviation from normal, was so in that past, and only the future will know the next definition.
N_Jay,
I was asking JD to pick up a P. book.
See how you assume that it is for you too.
You are making my theory about you two stronger
It was 6 posts in response to 6 of yours.
Two of those you quote me or mention me.
and one is just a note to all about an interesting view on the subject.
(Not that I'm keeping score, as you are the one who brought up the issue).
Hi, N_Jay. Whatever happened to that Oscar Wilde discussion? Did someone delete the thread? If you're referring to that discussion, I think you misunderstood, but it's no biggie.
Sorry if this breaks your view of the world, but a forum is a "group" discussion, not a personal conversation. Anyone may respond to any comment. There is a PM feature if you care to ask someone a direct question and you do not want others to comment.
As for your "theory", you have obviously collected very little data, so I would call it a childish wild guess, more than a theory.
Is this poll in response to my statement that jdeanski's view was misrepresented? If so, I was referring to the statement that jdeanski supposedly didn't care about over 600,000 Iraqis killed. With respect to jdeanski's views on homosexuality, or his relationship with N_Jay, or the existence of God, and Chosen People ... well, I'm not sure how to contribute to another thread that has already gone South rather quickly.
Hi, N_Jay. Whatever happened to that Oscar Wilde discussion? Did someone delete the thread? If you're referring to that discussion, I think you misunderstood, but it's no biggie.
Is this poll in response to my statement that jdeanski's view was misrepresented? If so, I was referring to the statement that jdeanski supposedly didn't care about over 600,000 Iraqis killed. With respect to jdeanski's views on homosexuality, or his relationship with N_Jay, or the existence of God, and Chosen People ... well, I'm not sure how to contribute to another thread that has already gone South rather quickly.
As a Centrist, I think I should respond to this thread, even though it is mostly made up of childish and poorly thought out posts.
For background, I have voted Democratic recently, so no Neo-Con responses, please. I am not a fan of GWB, but I am also no Nancy Pelosi disciple.
Here is my view. The concept of marriage is Biblical, whether anyone wants to admit it or not. Whether Old Testament (Torah), New Testabment, Koran, etc. It is a biblical concept that became a religious concept. Why in the world would a secular group like the homosexuals in the US want to embrace a biblical concept? Civil Unions make sense for homosexuals, marriage does not. I actually wish that my wife and I could have received a civil union contract instead of a marriage license from our state government.
Also, there is a requirement for a man and a woman to make a baby, even if you borrow someone else's semen and inseminate someone else. That seems basic, but it also gets overlooked in these arguments. It is NATURAL for a man to have intercourse with a woman to make a baby. Whether that was created or evolved, that is the process. People that believe in evolution should be against insemination and other ALTERNATIVE forms of conception because if reproduction is important, humans will evolve and not need separate genders anymore.
I believe Hindus (and members of other non-biblical religions) get married and some derive the word "marriage" from Sanskrit or earlier Indo-European origins. On the other hand, members of various "biblical" relgions differ substantially on the nature of marriage, with some liberal Jews and Christians (not sure about liberal Muslims) readily accepting gay marriage.
Here's a definition by George Bernard Shaw:
"When two people are under the influence of the most violent, most insane, most delusive, and most transient of passions, they are required to swear that they will remain in that excited, abnormal, and exhausting condition until death do them part."
As a Centrist, I think I should respond to this thread, even though it is mostly made up of childish and poorly thought out posts.
For background, I have voted Democratic recently, so no Neo-Con responses, please. I am not a fan of GWB, but I am also no Nancy Pelosi disciple.
Here is my view. The concept of marriage is Biblical, whether anyone wants to admit it or not. Whether Old Testament (Torah), New Testabment, Koran, etc. It is a biblical concept that became a religious concept. Why in the world would a secular group like the homosexuals in the US want to embrace a biblical concept? Civil Unions make sense for homosexuals, marriage does not. I actually wish that my wife and I could have received a civil union contract instead of a marriage license from our state government.
Also, there is a requirement for a man and a woman to make a baby, even if you borrow someone else's semen and inseminate someone else. That seems basic, but it also gets overlooked in these arguments. It is NATURAL for a man to have intercourse with a woman to make a baby. Whether that was created or evolved, that is the process. People that believe in evolution should be against insemination and other ALTERNATIVE forms of conception because if reproduction is important, humans will evolve and not need separate genders anymore.
Point of the last statement was to say that the only way to create human life is with one man and one woman. Artificial insemination still requires a man to donate sperm. For those that believe homosexuality is "natural" they should not support artificial insemination since that tacitly admits that homosexuality is not normal. They should instead wait for themselves to "evolve" so they do not need formerly known as "normal" help to procreate. The women would wait until they evolved into a-sexuality and the men would wait until one of them grew a uterus.
Its not just the Bible, but the Quran and the Torah. All three agree that homosexuality is wrong. This is truely why one of the many reasons why Muslims do not want democracy in the Middle East. With democracy comes homosexuality, pornography, pre marital relations, etc. I have gay friends (who doesnt in California), but I disagree with their lifestyles.
Gauch and Bubbles pardon me for asking you these questions so directly but after reading some of you comments, do you accept the teachings of the Bible? How about this more broad question? Do either of you believe in God?
Gauch and Bubbles pardon me for asking you these questions so directly but after reading some of you comments, do you accept the teachings of the Bible? How about this more broad question? Do either of you believe in God?