"Scrunching Poll - Honda Pilot

mikmax1 · 09-16-2002, 10:00 AM

Seems like a major item...making me delay ordering and see no evidence it is fixed yet. So let's try a Poll.

xyzzy · 09-16-2002, 11:05 AM

Good idea to poll for this one. BTW- What is the reasoning for the 8/15 date? Is the date significant, or just an arbitrary line in the sand?

Chris

SteveLuman · 09-16-2002, 11:53 AM

I have had no noise problems, rattles, etc. The only minor inconvenience was the Water Pump Recall.

mikmax1 · 09-16-2002, 12:53 PM

Fairly arbitrary date chosen to see if Honda has made any progress within the factory since the first batches rolled off. By 8/15 they should have known the problem exists at least. I felt some indicator of time would be better than a yes/no. I could have split the VINs in half, but figured some folks don't nec know their VINS

Howdy Ag · 09-16-2002, 07:39 PM

While I don't wish the scrunch on anyone, keep in mind that just because someone doesn't yet have the scrunch, doesn't mean they never will. I developed the scrunch at about 1500 miles which, as of this writing, would be on the high end for someone who took delivery since 8/15/02.

mikmax1 · 09-16-2002, 09:06 PM

Looks like we are 50/50 on the earlier models. Will take a while for shear numbers and miles to catch up on the later ones. I thought about a question "did you get it fixed" would help but then figured it would complicate the poll. Besides....I think anyone with a fix on this board would be dancing in the street and sharing it with us anyway. I think the floating door theory sounds like it has the most merit, but what the fix is; be it minimizing the float or changing a trim part is what we are waiting for. I figure Honda has GOT to monitor these boards and use them for R&Q to minimize warranty costs and reputation loss. Now whether or not they "admit it"....that is another thing.

SkyPilot · 09-16-2002, 10:52 PM

I have a minor version of the scrunch. It seemed to develop at around 800 miles. It's only apparent on bumpier roads and isn't very loud so I'm content to leave it be for now.

sillec · 09-19-2002, 09:24 PM

Driver's door scrunch still in remission @ 3 months/3K mi from original Shinetsu door seal treatment but I do get an intermittent rattle on rough roads. Also letting it go for now, until a permanent AH or forum fix surfaces.

Howdy Ag · 02-05-2003, 10:44 AM

Bump for newbies.

The chatter regarding the scrunch has died down for the last few months. Hopefully this means Honda has solved the problem on the Pilots now and so should have a fix for those of us who took the plunge early.

Is anyone in the 15000 and up VIN series developing the scrunch?

Stone · 02-05-2003, 09:17 PM

I just took delivery of an EXL-RES that was shipped from the factory on Jan. 23, and unfortunately, I have the dreaded scrunch on rough roads. It is not horrible, but still noticeable. So, it appears that it has not been fixed yet on the most recent Pilots.

Howdy Ag · 02-06-2003, 10:32 AM

Stone,
Really sorry to hear that.

nighthawk · 02-06-2003, 01:04 PM

There was also someone on the Accord Forum that said their 2003 Accord had this problem. So it's got to be a Honda thing. Funny thing is that I would'nt have even given it a second thought if I did'nt read about it in these groups. I have been enlightened!!!

View Poll Results: Do you have the window "scrunch"
Had it on a pilot delivered before 8/15	23	28.05%
Never had it on a pilot delivered before 8/15	20	24.39%
Have it on a pilot delivered after 8/15	13	15.85%
Never had it on a Pilot delivered after 8/15	26	31.71%
Voters: 82. You may not vote on this poll

09-16-2002, 10:00 AM	#1 (permalink)
mikmax1 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Western Chicago Suburbs Posts: 148 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	"Scrunching Poll Seems like a major item...making me delay ordering and see no evidence it is fixed yet. So let's try a Poll.

09-16-2002, 11:05 AM	#2 (permalink)
xyzzy Super Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Alexandria, KY Posts: 920 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Good idea to poll for this one. BTW- What is the reasoning for the 8/15 date? Is the date significant, or just an arbitrary line in the sand? Chris __________________ 2004 Audi S4 Sedan (340hp of pure pleasure) 2000 Toyota Sienna 2001 Volusia 800

09-16-2002, 11:53 AM	#3 (permalink)
SteveLuman 2003 SS EX-L RES Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,117 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	No Problems I have had no noise problems, rattles, etc. The only minor inconvenience was the Water Pump Recall.

09-16-2002, 12:53 PM	#4 (permalink)
mikmax1 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Western Chicago Suburbs Posts: 148 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	why 8/15 Fairly arbitrary date chosen to see if Honda has made any progress within the factory since the first batches rolled off. By 8/15 they should have known the problem exists at least. I felt some indicator of time would be better than a yes/no. I could have split the VINs in half, but figured some folks don't nec know their VINS

09-16-2002, 07:39 PM	#5 (permalink)
Howdy Ag Super Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 310 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	While I don't wish the scrunch on anyone, keep in mind that just because someone doesn't yet have the scrunch, doesn't mean they never will. I developed the scrunch at about 1500 miles which, as of this writing, would be on the high end for someone who took delivery since 8/15/02. __________________ '03 White Pilot EX-L a/k/a "Frosty the Pilot" w/rear mud guards '03 Black Garnet Pearl (i.e., metallic maroon) w/premium package Lexus ES 300 Bluegrass Rules!

09-16-2002, 09:06 PM	#6 (permalink)
mikmax1 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Western Chicago Suburbs Posts: 148 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Score so far Looks like we are 50/50 on the earlier models. Will take a while for shear numbers and miles to catch up on the later ones. I thought about a question "did you get it fixed" would help but then figured it would complicate the poll. Besides....I think anyone with a fix on this board would be dancing in the street and sharing it with us anyway. I think the floating door theory sounds like it has the most merit, but what the fix is; be it minimizing the float or changing a trim part is what we are waiting for. I figure Honda has GOT to monitor these boards and use them for R&Q to minimize warranty costs and reputation loss. Now whether or not they "admit it"....that is another thing.

09-16-2002, 10:52 PM	#7 (permalink)
SkyPilot Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 111 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have a minor version of the scrunch. It seemed to develop at around 800 miles. It's only apparent on bumpier roads and isn't very loud so I'm content to leave it be for now. __________________ 03 Pilot EX-L SS w/RB 01 Audi S4

09-19-2002, 09:24 PM	#8 (permalink)
sillec Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 185 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Remission Driver's door scrunch still in remission @ 3 months/3K mi from original Shinetsu door seal treatment but I do get an intermittent rattle on rough roads. Also letting it go for now, until a permanent AH or forum fix surfaces. __________________ '03 Pilot EX Redrock - June 2002 Foglights w/o trim; Full-size spare; Cargo tray; Cargo cover; All-weather mats; Rear splash guards

02-05-2003, 10:44 AM	#9 (permalink)
Howdy Ag Super Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 310 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Bump for newbies. The chatter regarding the scrunch has died down for the last few months. Hopefully this means Honda has solved the problem on the Pilots now and so should have a fix for those of us who took the plunge early. Is anyone in the 15000 and up VIN series developing the scrunch? __________________ '03 White Pilot EX-L a/k/a "Frosty the Pilot" w/rear mud guards '03 Black Garnet Pearl (i.e., metallic maroon) w/premium package Lexus ES 300 Bluegrass Rules!

02-05-2003, 09:17 PM	#10 (permalink)
Stone Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 24 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I just took delivery of an EXL-RES that was shipped from the factory on Jan. 23, and unfortunately, I have the dreaded scrunch on rough roads. It is not horrible, but still noticeable. So, it appears that it has not been fixed yet on the most recent Pilots. __________________ 2003 SandStone EX-L, RES, Backup Sensors, Rear Splash Guards

02-06-2003, 10:32 AM	#11 (permalink)
Howdy Ag Super Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 310 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Stone, Really sorry to hear that. __________________ '03 White Pilot EX-L a/k/a "Frosty the Pilot" w/rear mud guards '03 Black Garnet Pearl (i.e., metallic maroon) w/premium package Lexus ES 300 Bluegrass Rules!

02-06-2003, 01:04 PM	#12 (permalink)
nighthawk Super Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: $F, Bay Area Posts: 316 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	There was also someone on the Accord Forum that said their 2003 Accord had this problem. So it's got to be a Honda thing. Funny thing is that I would'nt have even given it a second thought if I did'nt read about it in these groups. I have been enlightened!!! __________________ 06 Pilot EX-L w/NAV 05 CRV SE 00 Integra GS 74 Mercedes 450 SLC TRADED - 03 Pilot EX-L Nighthawk Black Pearl #8031.Form Fit Air Deflector, Rear Splash Guards, Running Boards, Crossbars, Cargo Tray & Cover, Honda Chrome Exhaust Tips, All Weather Mats

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