Would you buy a 4-cylinder Pilot? - Honda Pilot

robottik · 01-26-2005, 10:29 PM

That 0 to 60 thread got me thinking...

All other things equal, would you buy a 4-cylinder Pilot if say:

The 0-60 mph acceleration was 11 seconds, but the Pilot's mileage was better due to the smaller engine?

waynerd · 01-26-2005, 11:19 PM

Honda does amazing things with little engines, but I don't think a 4 banger would have enough umph for a fully loaded Pilot to have much performance at all. The 6 cylinder still had (has?) more HP than the Ford Exploder V8, and maybe more peak torque if I'm not mistaken. T'ain't bad at all!

fireflock · 01-26-2005, 11:39 PM

No Way

The ability to tow a boat or a camper is a must for a vehicle like the Pilot

dragoncoach · 01-26-2005, 11:43 PM

The Pilot is much too heavy to be powered by a 4 banger. If Honda put a 4 banger in, it would have to be quite large and have a lot of torque to push a 4300 lb. Pilot.

ipomoea · 01-27-2005, 09:54 AM

If I am not mistaken, the next Pilot will have VCM as an option (or standard). Technically, you will have a Pilot with just 3 cylinders banging away at cruising speeds or at low engine loads. In terms of fuel economy, you will theoreticaly approach that of a 2.4 L 4 banger. And as always, YMMV.

krygny · 01-27-2005, 10:09 AM

Missing poll option:

No. NO. NO! F#%K NO!! S#!T F&%KING NO!!!

N_Jay · 01-27-2005, 10:13 AM

All indications are that US buyers favor Power over Economy!

You can hope and wish, but sales figure (What people do vs. what they say) is hard evidence to ignore.

BigDogDad · 01-27-2005, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by krygny
Missing poll option:

No. NO. NO! F#%K NO!! S#!T F&%KING NO!!!

A little subtle, but that's the option I would have picked!

GreenMachine · 01-27-2005, 11:03 AM

No way.

That would be one painfully slow Pilot. Also, anyone with hill/mountains would hate all noise as that 4 cylinder would be pushing high rpm's to make it up those hills.

cdfdale · 01-27-2005, 11:12 AM

UGH...we had a Dodge Caravan with the "big" four in it once upon a time.

It was fine for around town but load it up and head out? "You gotta be kiddin' right?"

We live in an area that is surrounded on three sides by mountains (except for "down valley") so we were always relegated to the slow lane going uphill...what a drag! We're better off financially now so we didn't have to settle for a four banger this time!

PNW-Pilot · 01-27-2005, 11:47 AM

IF they had an option and it was around the price of a fully loaded CRV EX, I'd be interested.

Reason, yes it won't do fine on long trips in mountain areas, but for going around town, if I could average 25MPG city/highway. I'd be in for that as a second vehicle for family to use around town.

But it would have to get like the CRV in milage 20/27 for me to consider it.

N_Jay · 01-27-2005, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PNW-Pilot
IF they had an option and it was around the price of a fully loaded CRV EX, I'd be interested.

Reason, yes it won't do fine on long trips in mountain areas, but for going around town, if I could average 25MPG city/highway. I'd be in for that as a second vehicle for family to use around town.

But it would have to get like the CRV in milage 20/27 for me to consider it.

How is a heavier bigger vehicle going to get the same MPG?

Titans Fan · 01-27-2005, 01:37 PM

This brings back 3 very unpleasant thoughts from my first (i.e. very basic) 4 cyl. truck:
1) Having to pick up speed going down hills so it could "kinda maintain" speed going up the next hill.

2) Flooring it going up hills... and seeing the speed drop, drop, drop...

3) Looking over & seeing grandpa passing me in his Olds, the same car I passed on a flat stretch because he was poking along.

Not going there again.

ramirami · 01-27-2005, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Titans Fan
This brings back 3 very unpleasant thoughts from my first (i.e. very basic) 4 cyl. truck:

3) Looking over & seeing grandpa passing me in his Olds, the same car I passed on a flat stretch because he was poking along.

funny picture

john802 · 01-27-2005, 04:47 PM

No way!!! That will be one slow Pilot unless Honda will rebadge it as "Turtle"

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01-26-2005, 10:29 PM	#1 (permalink)
robottik Super Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Here Posts: 632 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Would you buy a 4-cylinder Pilot? That 0 to 60 thread got me thinking... All other things equal, would you buy a 4-cylinder Pilot if say: The 0-60 mph acceleration was 11 seconds, but the Pilot's mileage was better due to the smaller engine? __________________ 2004 Honda Pilot EX - Midnight Blue Pearl OEM Accessories: All-Season Floor Mats - Cargo Cover - Cargo Tray - Rear Splash Guards - Running Boards - EX Emblem - Chrome Bumper Trim - Fog Lights - Separation Net Non-OEM Accessories: WeatherTech Dark WeatherFlectors - Stainless Steel License Plate Frame - Superior Dash Black Burlwood Dash Kit - Several Wwong Accessories - Vibrant Performance Stainless Steel Exhaust Tips (#1503) - Garmin Nuvi 660 GPS with Friction mount - Thule Atlantis 1600 Cargo Box - Honda Pilot Keychain (of course!)

01-26-2005, 11:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
waynerd Pilotless Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 819 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Honda does amazing things with little engines, but I don't think a 4 banger would have enough umph for a fully loaded Pilot to have much performance at all. The 6 cylinder still had (has?) more HP than the Ford Exploder V8, and maybe more peak torque if I'm not mistaken. T'ain't bad at all! __________________ '06 Odyssey EX-L in Redrock Pearl = "Odie" '02 Subaru Outback Limited = "Matilda" Traded, but not forgotten '04 EX-L in Redrock Pearl = "Otto" Still "Happily Piloting Along"

01-26-2005, 11:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
fireflock Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 233 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	No Way The ability to tow a boat or a camper is a must for a vehicle like the Pilot __________________ 2004 Silver Starlight EX-L --------------------------------------------------------------- Rear Mud Guards, All Season Floor Mats, Cargo Tray, Tow Package, PA11-HON iPod stereo interface

01-26-2005, 11:43 PM	#4 (permalink)
dragoncoach Super Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: San Francisco, The City by the Bay Posts: 656 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The Pilot is much too heavy to be powered by a 4 banger. If Honda put a 4 banger in, it would have to be quite large and have a lot of torque to push a 4300 lb. Pilot. __________________ '04 Sagebrush EX-L w/ Navi / Class III Valley Hitch / Mito self-dimming rearview mirror, Muth signal mirrors / upgraded door speakers / front set of Pilot Pads / full size spare / AVS hood deflector / MTX 404, 4 channel amp / rear cargo cover / '06 tail light upgrade, full LED interior light conversion. Gone to a new home but not forgotten. Sold to a good friend. '03 BMW M5, Carbon Black '04 Mercedes SL 500R, Silver '98 Honda Accord EX V-6, Nighthawk Black Pearl '05 Honda Accord EX V-6 w/ navi, Deep Green Pearl

01-27-2005, 09:54 AM	#5 (permalink)
ipomoea Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Northeast La Posts: 252 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	If I am not mistaken, the next Pilot will have VCM as an option (or standard). Technically, you will have a Pilot with just 3 cylinders banging away at cruising speeds or at low engine loads. In terms of fuel economy, you will theoreticaly approach that of a 2.4 L 4 banger. And as always, YMMV. __________________ 2003 EX-L Starlight Si, Perfect Fit Deflector, Rear Splash Guards, V51311, 50K. 15-19MPG City, 22MPG Hwy, AC on high 1999 CR-V LX, Sebring Si, 159K and counting, 25MPG Mostly Hwy-- A diesel-powered Honda in '09? _______________ Pilot nits/fixes: SRS Reprogramming, tranny fix, driver's seat plastic trim fix (2X), rear storage latch fix, suspension fix, brake shim fix, and from time to time, creaks (or rattles?) from behind the dashboard, 70 +/- 2 MPH vibration. V nits/fixes: road noise; timing belt replaced @ 65K, "idle assembly" replaced @ 150K

01-27-2005, 10:09 AM	#6 (permalink)
krygny Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NY Panhandle(c) Posts: 2,829 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Re: Would you buy a 4-cylinder Pilot? Missing poll option: No. NO. NO! F#%K NO!! S#!T F&%KING NO!!! __________________ 2003 EX-L, Sage Brush Pearl Side Steps • Rear Splash Guards • Cross Bars • Cargo Tray • Cargo Cover • All-Season Floor Mats • StreetPilot ColorMap • WeatherTech WeatherFlectors • Fortera TripleTreds

01-27-2005, 10:13 AM	#7 (permalink)
N_Jay Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Chicago, NW Burbs Posts: 13,440 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	All indications are that US buyers favor Power over Economy! You can hope and wish, but sales figure (What people do vs. what they say) is hard evidence to ignore. __________________ However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results. Sir Winston Churchill

01-27-2005, 11:03 AM	#9 (permalink)
GreenMachine Super Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Orange Park, FL Posts: 1,488 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	No way. That would be one painfully slow Pilot. Also, anyone with hill/mountains would hate all noise as that 4 cylinder would be pushing high rpm's to make it up those hills. __________________ 2001 CR-V EX Automatic - Clover Green Pearl - Westin Safari Bar; OEM skidplate, fog lights, roof rack, cargo mat, & passenger arm rest; Benevento Bug shield;225/70/15 Geolandar HT's 2006 Pilot EX 4WD - Steel Blue - OEM Auto Day/Night mirror, retractable cargo cover, backup sensors, mud guards, and cargo tray. Full set of Pilotpads from Wong. 2010 Camaro 1SS RS, LS3, 6sp Manual, Sunroof, B.A. Audio

01-27-2005, 11:12 AM	#10 (permalink)
cdfdale RVN_Fool Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Red Bluff, Calif Posts: 13 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	UGH...we had a Dodge Caravan with the "big" four in it once upon a time. It was fine for around town but load it up and head out? "You gotta be kiddin' right?" We live in an area that is surrounded on three sides by mountains (except for "down valley") so we were always relegated to the slow lane going uphill...what a drag! We're better off financially now so we didn't have to settle for a four banger this time! __________________ '97 Accord w/115K (Motorhome "toad") ------------------------------------------------- '05 Redrock/Saddle Pilot EX-L Wood accent kit, Moonroof, crossbars, tow kit, wwong cup kit, all-weather floor mats, mudflaps, Eurodezign H4s + more to come

01-27-2005, 11:47 AM	#11 (permalink)
PNW-Pilot Super Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Port Orchard, WA Posts: 708 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	IF they had an option and it was around the price of a fully loaded CRV EX, I'd be interested. Reason, yes it won't do fine on long trips in mountain areas, but for going around town, if I could average 25MPG city/highway. I'd be in for that as a second vehicle for family to use around town. But it would have to get like the CRV in milage 20/27 for me to consider it. __________________ 06 'Rolla LE - Silver Streak Mica 06 Sienna XLE - Blue Mirage Metallic 04 Pilot SBP - Tow Package, Rear Muds, Fog Lights, Cargo Mat (Traded) Claire & Victoria - Double Trouble

01-27-2005, 01:37 PM	#13 (permalink)
Titans Fan Super Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Middle Tennessee Posts: 1,283 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	This brings back 3 very unpleasant thoughts from my first (i.e. very basic) 4 cyl. truck: 1) Having to pick up speed going down hills so it could "kinda maintain" speed going up the next hill. 2) Flooring it going up hills... and seeing the speed drop, drop, drop... 3) Looking over & seeing grandpa passing me in his Olds, the same car I passed on a flat stretch because he was poking along. Not going there again. __________________ '03 Pilot EX Silver Fog lights, side steps, Hollandia sunroof, cargo cover, crossbars, splash guards, '04 horns, & a bunch of wwong's 3M goodies '99 CRV

01-27-2005, 04:47 PM	#15 (permalink)
john802 Rip Tide Dude! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Southern Cal Posts: 3,054 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	No way!!! That will be one slow Pilot unless Honda will rebadge it as "Turtle" __________________ 2003 Honda Pilot EX Starlight Silver* OEM Full Nose Mask \| Wheel Locks \| Cross Bars \| OEM Running Boards \| Chrome Accent - OEM Running Board \| Rear Splash Guard \| OEM '04 Horn \| Cloud-Rider Spectare Black Stainless Steel Grille Screen & Bumper Combo \| Thule Ski Rack #725 \| Thule Snowboard Carrier #575 \|OEM All Season Floor Mats \|OEM Cargo Tray \| Pilot Motorsports #PM555 Stainless Steel Exhaust Tips \| PowerStation Pro Portable Charger/Compressor/Emergency Light \| Tire Step Ladder \| Eurodezigns Blue Xenon H4 Bulbs & H3 Fog Light Bulbs \| Infinity Kappa Speakers \| Dynamat Original/Extreme \| Complete Set of 3M Protector \| 3M Metallic Tint \| Covercraft Noah Custom Cover \| Microtune #141X Antenna Amplifier \| Dashmat Dash Cover \| Full Size Spare Tire \| Broadway Napolex BW-86 Wide Inside Rear View Mirror \| Complete Sets of Dark Smoke WeatherTech WeatherFlectors \| Westin Black Rear Bumper Guard \| 3rd Brake Light Mod \| 6 Disc CD Changer \| ______________________________ The dawn of love would be the end of pleasure!

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