TSB 01-009 - V6 Engine Oil Leaks - Honda Pilot

rogert · 05-22-2003, 04:29 PM

From hondasuv.com

TSB 01-009 - V6 Engine Oil Leaks

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Submitted by: hondasuv Commented: Fri Oct 18, 2002 10:30 pm
TSB 01-009 dated Sep 10, 2002

V6 Engine Oil Leaks that can potentially affect some Pilots

Observations:
Oil leak from either the front, middle, or rear part of the engine. This is due to the porus nature of the cast aluminum engine block.

Resolutions:
Seal with 3-bond-coated sealing bolts or JB Weld.

This is a very intensive fix and is best left to the certified Honda Master mechanics who have the right tools to do the job.

hanss · 05-31-2003, 03:01 PM

Um, Honda's recomended fix for an oil leak caused by a defect in the aluminium engine casting be fixed, basically by putting epoxy glue in the bolt holes. This cant possibly be right.

Or at least I hope it is not right.

-Hans

Gremz · 05-31-2003, 04:08 PM

This is news to me. I haven't noticed any leaks. Has anyone else?

BWD · 05-31-2003, 04:19 PM

Nope no leaks, but I've only had mine for a week now. I should hope not!

N_Jay · 05-31-2003, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rogert
From hondasuv.com

TSB 01-009 - V6 Engine Oil Leaks

http://www.honda-pilot.org/forums/sh...&threadid=4189

Rogert,
Do you have anything of value to add?

kemosabe · 05-31-2003, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by N_Jay

http://www.honda-pilot.org/forums/sh...&threadid=4189

Rogert,
Do you have anything of value to add?

Hmmm... interesting discovery, N_Jay...

RipRocK · 05-31-2003, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by N_Jay
http://www.honda-pilot.org/forums/sh...&threadid=4189

Rogert,
Do you have anything of value to add?

LOL. Busted!!!

hanss · 05-31-2003, 11:34 PM

I dunno, my pilot has about 1400 miles on it, I crawled under it this afternoon and ran my hand across the bottom of the transmission, I found a greasy film, but nothing that looked like an oil leak, and belive me I know what oil leaks look like, Ive owned 2 Volkwagen's before I quit that bad habit!

Sounds like a FUD campaign ot me, the fix sounds very unlikely....

-Hans

kemosabe · 05-31-2003, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RipRocK

LOL. Busted!!!

Yup!!! Busted!!!!

RipRocK · 06-01-2003, 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kemosabe
Yup!!! Busted!!!!

kemo, I don't wanna be a secretary no more, I want THAT job!

TheWorm · 06-01-2003, 02:10 AM

That TSB is from October 2001. IMO it's no more than a prescriptive "what if" tech bulletin rather than something addressing a present or widespread issue (like the waterpump deal last fall).

IIRC, on the MDX site there have been two such instances since the MDX came out in 01. Neither was fixed with JB Weld -- nor was it even tried. Both owners got new short blocks.

The TSB applies to ALL Honda and Acura cars with aluminum blocks.

hanns - There's frequently an "oily" substance on the tranny and other engine components left over from assembly. Shouldn't be enough to drip on the floor (which would be a symptom of the porous casting or a rear seal leak), and might take another 1k to burn or evap all the assembly lube off.. I'd not worry about it, but you can wipe it off and check for residual drips, along with checking your oil level if you're really concerned.

hanss · 06-01-2003, 02:26 AM

Thanks, not really worried though, Honda has always had the reputation of building some of the worlds best engines, which is the primary reasion I chose a Honda's SUV, over Toyota, Nissan, and the rest of the SUV crowd.

The absurd concept of fixing an oil leak by packing bolt holes with "JB Weld", which is basically an epoxy with a filler in it, just caught my attention, that's all.

No manufacturing process I am aware of yields 100% perfect quality product, though I still belive Honda's product quality to be quite high. I am glad to hear Honda did the right thing and gave the customers new short blocks!

-Hans

TheWorm · 06-01-2003, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hanss
The absurd concept of fixing an oil leak by packing bolt holes with "JB Weld", which is basically an epoxy with a filler in it, just caught my attention, that's all.

The JB Weld solution elicited a similar response when the TSB was posted on the MDX board when it was released back then. I guess it works better than chewing gum.

(oh, sorry for the extra 'n' and missing 's')

PILOTinginCO · 06-01-2003, 02:19 PM

I have nearly 19,000 miles on my PILOT - and haven't had any problems!!!

Thank you Honda!

PILOTinginCO
Sagebrush Pearl-EX

PILOTHEAD · 06-08-2003, 10:14 PM

jbweld

05-22-2003, 04:29 PM	#1 (permalink)
rogert Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: oklahoma Posts: 17 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	TSB 01-009 - V6 Engine Oil Leaks From hondasuv.com TSB 01-009 - V6 Engine Oil Leaks Watch this article for replies Submitted by: hondasuv Commented: Fri Oct 18, 2002 10:30 pm TSB 01-009 dated Sep 10, 2002 V6 Engine Oil Leaks that can potentially affect some Pilots Observations: Oil leak from either the front, middle, or rear part of the engine. This is due to the porus nature of the cast aluminum engine block. Resolutions: Seal with 3-bond-coated sealing bolts or JB Weld. This is a very intensive fix and is best left to the certified Honda Master mechanics who have the right tools to do the job.

05-31-2003, 04:08 PM	#3 (permalink)
Gremz Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 24 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	anyone get stung by this? This is news to me. I haven't noticed any leaks. Has anyone else? __________________ Gremz 03' Pilot EX / Sagebrush Pearl / Cargo Tray / WeatherFlectors Visor vents / PIE HON-Aux audio adapter 96' Civic Sedan DX / Silver (wife's)

05-31-2003, 04:19 PM	#4 (permalink)
BWD Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Centennial, CO Posts: 36 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Nope no leaks, but I've only had mine for a week now. I should hope not! __________________ 2003 EX-L Sagebrush 2005 LGT Limited Wagon

06-01-2003, 02:19 PM	#14 (permalink)
PILOTinginCO a.k.a. TREGinginCO Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Parker, Colorado Posts: 726 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Not A Problem I have nearly 19,000 miles on my PILOT - and haven't had any problems!!! Thank you Honda! PILOTinginCO Sagebrush Pearl-EX

06-08-2003, 10:14 PM	#15 (permalink)
PILOTHEAD Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 354 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	jbweld __________________ 2003 EX Sage Brush Pearl, Lo Jack, Crossbars, Rear Splash Guards, All Season Mats, Cargo Tray, Cargo Liner, Wheel Locks

05-31-2003, 03:01 PM	#2 (permalink)
hanss Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Redwood Shores, CA Posts: 28 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Um, Honda's recomended fix for an oil leak caused by a defect in the aluminium engine casting be fixed, basically by putting epoxy glue in the bolt holes. This cant possibly be right. Or at least I hope it is not right. -Hans

05-31-2003, 11:34 PM	#8 (permalink)
hanss Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Redwood Shores, CA Posts: 28 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I dunno, my pilot has about 1400 miles on it, I crawled under it this afternoon and ran my hand across the bottom of the transmission, I found a greasy film, but nothing that looked like an oil leak, and belive me I know what oil leaks look like, Ive owned 2 Volkwagen's before I quit that bad habit! Sounds like a FUD campaign ot me, the fix sounds very unlikely.... -Hans

06-01-2003, 02:10 AM	#11 (permalink)
TheWorm Admin Du Jour ® Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 1,018 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	That TSB is from October 2001. IMO it's no more than a prescriptive "what if" tech bulletin rather than something addressing a present or widespread issue (like the waterpump deal last fall). IIRC, on the MDX site there have been two such instances since the MDX came out in 01. Neither was fixed with JB Weld -- nor was it even tried. Both owners got new short blocks. The TSB applies to ALL Honda and Acura cars with aluminum blocks. hanns - There's frequently an "oily" substance on the tranny and other engine components left over from assembly. Shouldn't be enough to drip on the floor (which would be a symptom of the porous casting or a rear seal leak), and might take another 1k to burn or evap all the assembly lube off.. I'd not worry about it, but you can wipe it off and check for residual drips, along with checking your oil level if you're really concerned.

06-01-2003, 02:26 AM	#12 (permalink)
hanss Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Redwood Shores, CA Posts: 28 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thanks, not really worried though, Honda has always had the reputation of building some of the worlds best engines, which is the primary reasion I chose a Honda's SUV, over Toyota, Nissan, and the rest of the SUV crowd. The absurd concept of fixing an oil leak by packing bolt holes with "JB Weld", which is basically an epoxy with a filler in it, just caught my attention, that's all. No manufacturing process I am aware of yields 100% perfect quality product, though I still belive Honda's product quality to be quite high. I am glad to hear Honda did the right thing and gave the customers new short blocks! -Hans

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