service bulletin on DS noise - Honda Pilot

jctatman · 10-09-2002, 10:35 AM

Thought this might help some of you with that seat noise.

jctatman · 10-09-2002, 10:39 AM

I can't get the image to show up..... I'll keep trying!

jctatman · 10-09-2002, 10:56 AM

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vegasdude · 10-09-2002, 11:57 AM

Darn it I am on the Vin# range again......oh well c'est la vie!

SoapPlant · 10-09-2002, 12:04 PM

Got off the hook on the Pilot, but looks like the Accord is affected. Been noticings a slight shift or pop in the driver's seat sometimes when going around corners.

So I'm not crazy afterall!

whitepilot · 10-09-2002, 12:06 PM

and once again I am NOT in the vin range, but am definatly experiencing this issue.....

water pump
strut
drivers seat

jctatman · 10-09-2002, 12:06 PM

So sorry to hear that!

We have been lucky so far, we missed the water pump one on both Hondas. We did have that nasty noise from the strut weld, but he took care of that. Our biggest complaint has been the tires. Our first road trip we ended up with a flat & when we researched getting a new tire to match the rest discovered the low numbers in those GoodYears. So we replaced all 4. It changed the ride big time! When he did the weld thing, he found the aliignment was way in. That also helped the ride improve. It's funny how things feel normal until you make a change then it feels better!

Mrs. JC

jctatman · 10-09-2002, 12:14 PM

With the seats, you can probably still get them fixed. After all it's still new enough! I don't remember seeing a list about the struts, we just took it in & had it taken care of. The vans had the same weld do the same thing. (price we pay for not owning ones built in Japan) I was thrilled to not need the water pump done, that means it wasn't built during the faulty part era & we shouldn't have the problem. In therory anyway!

Mrs. JC

jctatman · 10-09-2002, 12:41 PM

"So I'm not crazy afterall!"

Well, maybe not about the noises........

MG Pilot · 10-09-2002, 12:46 PM

How does alignment affect the ride of a vehicle???

jctatman · 10-09-2002, 12:59 PM

The tow was so far in that it was feeling like it was dragging the tires sideways! When we took our foot off the gas, it slowed down a lot faster than most cars. But it wasn't until having the alignment redone that we really noticed. It was about an inch tow'd in on each side! Now it feels good. It slows at a normal pace.

Mrs. JC

N_Jay · 10-09-2002, 01:47 PM

An inch??
That would have killed the tires in no time.
Maybe it was an inch after they did the weld fix, but I doubt before.

jctatman · 10-09-2002, 01:57 PM

We did already have tire wear! I pointed it out on our pre-trip inspection. Mr JC did the weld fix & alignment the same day. We were actually happy to find a cause & not have one of those mystery problems! It's just hard to explain the difference now. When letting up on the gas was slower than we thought it should be, we blamed the weight of the Pilot vs. the Accord.... Now it's just plain normal! He's the primary driver of the Pilot & for about a week after the weld fix & alignment he had to tell me daily how happy he is with it now! The daily "I love my Pilot" was more specific. We have past 3000 miles & are VERY happy with it!

Mrs. JC

seadog · 10-19-2002, 12:16 PM

Whats this weld fix? Yesterday when returning our new Pilot to the Dealer for paint issues I also asked the SM about the delayed coasting when foot is removed from gas pedal. Although only have 100 miles on it (basically from the dealer to home and this return trip) it was really a "different" feel. To me, upon removing my foot from the gas pedal there was a delay in the anticipated "coasting" and then a noticable (but slight) braking action of short duration and then it felt as if it was coasting but with more drag than any vehicle I've ever driven - and thats a lot of them (showing my age). Anyway, the SM told me he knew what I was talking about and it was caused by this new transmissions "fuzzy logic" system and that the mild braking action that I described was actually the transmission downshifting from 5th to 4th gear. Sounded logical to me but after reading the post about the misalignment and the fact that it still does not feel as thought it has that "free-wheel" coast sensation I plan to have the alignment checked pronto before get any abnormal wear pattern set into the new set of tires.

10-09-2002, 10:35 AM	#1 (permalink)
jctatman Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Antioch, CA Posts: 173 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	service bulletin on DS noise Thought this might help some of you with that seat noise. __________________ 03 Pilot EXL w/ NAV, Redrock, boards, chrome, camera, towing, bumper trim, 6 CD changer, zaino, AT revo tires, upgrade speakers, bug defl., muds, tray, bum warmers, Honda hands free & flares! # 7012 03 Accord EX-L Nav V6, Eternal blue, wing spoiler, foglights, tint, chrome ex. tips, Honda chrome rims & INfinity speakers, zaino...

10-09-2002, 10:39 AM	#2 (permalink)
jctatman Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Antioch, CA Posts: 173 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I can't get the image to show up..... I'll keep trying! __________________ 03 Pilot EXL w/ NAV, Redrock, boards, chrome, camera, towing, bumper trim, 6 CD changer, zaino, AT revo tires, upgrade speakers, bug defl., muds, tray, bum warmers, Honda hands free & flares! # 7012 03 Accord EX-L Nav V6, Eternal blue, wing spoiler, foglights, tint, chrome ex. tips, Honda chrome rims & INfinity speakers, zaino...

10-09-2002, 11:57 AM	#5 (permalink)
vegasdude Super Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 389 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Darn it I am on the Vin# range again......oh well c'est la vie! __________________ SS Pilot EX-L RES.

10-09-2002, 12:04 PM	#6 (permalink)
SoapPlant Super Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Hummelstown, PA Posts: 509 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Got off the hook on the Pilot, but looks like the Accord is affected. Been noticings a slight shift or pop in the driver's seat sometimes when going around corners. So I'm not crazy afterall! __________________ '98 Black Currant Accord EX-V6 '03 Sandstone Metallic Pilot EX-L RES (Finally Arrived 8/28!) - #20,811

10-09-2002, 12:06 PM	#7 (permalink)
whitepilot Super Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 310 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	and once again I am NOT in the vin range, but am definatly experiencing this issue..... water pump strut drivers seat __________________ The Pilots 3-4 03' Pilot EX-White: Sunroof, Mudguards, all season mats, Cargo tray, seperation net, new water pump and timing belt, and side steps 00' Ody EX- Granite Green

10-09-2002, 12:06 PM	#8 (permalink)
jctatman Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Antioch, CA Posts: 173 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	vegasdude So sorry to hear that! We have been lucky so far, we missed the water pump one on both Hondas. We did have that nasty noise from the strut weld, but he took care of that. Our biggest complaint has been the tires. Our first road trip we ended up with a flat & when we researched getting a new tire to match the rest discovered the low numbers in those GoodYears. So we replaced all 4. It changed the ride big time! When he did the weld thing, he found the aliignment was way in. That also helped the ride improve. It's funny how things feel normal until you make a change then it feels better! Mrs. JC __________________ 03 Pilot EXL w/ NAV, Redrock, boards, chrome, camera, towing, bumper trim, 6 CD changer, zaino, AT revo tires, upgrade speakers, bug defl., muds, tray, bum warmers, Honda hands free & flares! # 7012 03 Accord EX-L Nav V6, Eternal blue, wing spoiler, foglights, tint, chrome ex. tips, Honda chrome rims & INfinity speakers, zaino...

10-09-2002, 12:14 PM	#9 (permalink)
jctatman Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Antioch, CA Posts: 173 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	whitepilot With the seats, you can probably still get them fixed. After all it's still new enough! I don't remember seeing a list about the struts, we just took it in & had it taken care of. The vans had the same weld do the same thing. (price we pay for not owning ones built in Japan) I was thrilled to not need the water pump done, that means it wasn't built during the faulty part era & we shouldn't have the problem. In therory anyway! Mrs. JC __________________ 03 Pilot EXL w/ NAV, Redrock, boards, chrome, camera, towing, bumper trim, 6 CD changer, zaino, AT revo tires, upgrade speakers, bug defl., muds, tray, bum warmers, Honda hands free & flares! # 7012 03 Accord EX-L Nav V6, Eternal blue, wing spoiler, foglights, tint, chrome ex. tips, Honda chrome rims & INfinity speakers, zaino...

10-09-2002, 12:41 PM	#10 (permalink)
jctatman Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Antioch, CA Posts: 173 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	SoapPlant "So I'm not crazy afterall!" Well, maybe not about the noises........ __________________ 03 Pilot EXL w/ NAV, Redrock, boards, chrome, camera, towing, bumper trim, 6 CD changer, zaino, AT revo tires, upgrade speakers, bug defl., muds, tray, bum warmers, Honda hands free & flares! # 7012 03 Accord EX-L Nav V6, Eternal blue, wing spoiler, foglights, tint, chrome ex. tips, Honda chrome rims & INfinity speakers, zaino...

10-09-2002, 12:46 PM	#11 (permalink)
MG Pilot Super Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Minneapolis Suburbs Posts: 920 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	How does alignment affect the ride of a vehicle??? __________________ '03 Starlight Silver EX-L...Rear Splash Guards, Cargo Tray, All-Season Mats (Husky Liners In Front), Trailer Hitch, 3M Clear Nose Mask, K&N Performance Air and Oil Filters, Mobil1 5W-20 Oil, Sylvania Silver Star Bulbs, FS Spare, Michelin X Terrains, Bosch Micro Edge Excel Wiper Blades, Amsoil ATF, Bosch Premium Oil Filters, Purolator PureONE Oil Filters, Fumoto Oil Drain Valve, Akebono Ceramic Pads, Brembo Rotors-

10-09-2002, 12:59 PM	#12 (permalink)
jctatman Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Antioch, CA Posts: 173 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The tow was so far in that it was feeling like it was dragging the tires sideways! When we took our foot off the gas, it slowed down a lot faster than most cars. But it wasn't until having the alignment redone that we really noticed. It was about an inch tow'd in on each side! Now it feels good. It slows at a normal pace. Mrs. JC __________________ 03 Pilot EXL w/ NAV, Redrock, boards, chrome, camera, towing, bumper trim, 6 CD changer, zaino, AT revo tires, upgrade speakers, bug defl., muds, tray, bum warmers, Honda hands free & flares! # 7012 03 Accord EX-L Nav V6, Eternal blue, wing spoiler, foglights, tint, chrome ex. tips, Honda chrome rims & INfinity speakers, zaino...

10-09-2002, 01:47 PM	#13 (permalink)
N_Jay Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Chicago, NW Burbs Posts: 13,555 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	An inch?? That would have killed the tires in no time. Maybe it was an inch after they did the weld fix, but I doubt before. __________________ However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results. Sir Winston Churchill

10-09-2002, 01:57 PM	#14 (permalink)
jctatman Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Antioch, CA Posts: 173 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	We did already have tire wear! I pointed it out on our pre-trip inspection. Mr JC did the weld fix & alignment the same day. We were actually happy to find a cause & not have one of those mystery problems! It's just hard to explain the difference now. When letting up on the gas was slower than we thought it should be, we blamed the weight of the Pilot vs. the Accord.... Now it's just plain normal! He's the primary driver of the Pilot & for about a week after the weld fix & alignment he had to tell me daily how happy he is with it now! The daily "I love my Pilot" was more specific. We have past 3000 miles & are VERY happy with it! Mrs. JC __________________ 03 Pilot EXL w/ NAV, Redrock, boards, chrome, camera, towing, bumper trim, 6 CD changer, zaino, AT revo tires, upgrade speakers, bug defl., muds, tray, bum warmers, Honda hands free & flares! # 7012 03 Accord EX-L Nav V6, Eternal blue, wing spoiler, foglights, tint, chrome ex. tips, Honda chrome rims & INfinity speakers, zaino...

10-19-2002, 12:16 PM	#15 (permalink)
seadog Super Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 307 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Deceleration Whats this weld fix? Yesterday when returning our new Pilot to the Dealer for paint issues I also asked the SM about the delayed coasting when foot is removed from gas pedal. Although only have 100 miles on it (basically from the dealer to home and this return trip) it was really a "different" feel. To me, upon removing my foot from the gas pedal there was a delay in the anticipated "coasting" and then a noticable (but slight) braking action of short duration and then it felt as if it was coasting but with more drag than any vehicle I've ever driven - and thats a lot of them (showing my age). Anyway, the SM told me he knew what I was talking about and it was caused by this new transmissions "fuzzy logic" system and that the mild braking action that I described was actually the transmission downshifting from 5th to 4th gear. Sounded logical to me but after reading the post about the misalignment and the fact that it still does not feel as thought it has that "free-wheel" coast sensation I plan to have the alignment checked pronto before get any abnormal wear pattern set into the new set of tires.

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