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Old 02-17-2008, 09:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
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"Another student could use a computer, and it would be fine. But if Joe was on it, weird things started to happen," said Marie Yerdon, computer lab teacher at Lura Sharp Elementary School in Pulaski, NY. "I think there's something in his body chemistry, something in his makeup, that causes the computers to go haywire."

What the heck was this person doing teaching in a computer lab. She should have been sent back to art or music or wherever she came from!
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What the heck was this person doing teaching in a computer lab. She should have been sent back to art or music or wherever she came from!
do you see any irony in your comments related to your title?
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do you see any irony in your comments related to your title?
No, but I am sure you will enlighten us.
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Here is some more info. Some will think its funny. Teachers will tell you there is nothing funny about it, its the truth.


The Football Version of What is Going on in Education.

(If you're not an educator, this may not make a lot of sense to you. But send it to your friends who are in education. They will love it--and it's not too far off from reality.) For all educators in or out of the system...

NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND ---The Football Version

1. All teams must make the state playoffs and all MUST win the championship. If a team does not win the championship, they will be on probation until they are the champions, and coaches will be held accountable. If after two years they have not won the championship their footballs and equipment will be taken away UNTIL they do win the championship.

2. All kids will be expected to have the same football skills at the same time even if they do not have the same conditions or opportunities to practice on their own. NO exceptions will be made for lack of interest in football, a desire to perform athletically, or genetic abilities or disabilities of themselves or their parents. ALL KIDS WILL PLAY FOOTBALL AT A PROFICIENT LEVEL!

3. Talented players will be asked to work out on their own, without instruction. This is because the coaches will be using all their instructional time with the athletes who aren't interested in football, have limited athletic ability, or whose parents don't like football.

4. Games will be played year round, but statistics will only be kept in the 4th, 8th, and 11th game. It will create a New Age of Sports where every school is expected to have the same level of talent and all teams will reach the same minimum goals.
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Here is some more info. Some will think its funny. Teachers will tell you there is nothing funny about it, its the truth.


The Football Version of What is Going on in Education.

(If you're not an educator, this may not make a lot of sense to you. But send it to your friends who are in education. They will love it--and it's not too far off from reality.) For all educators in or out of the system...

NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND ---The Football Version

1. All teams must make the state playoffs and all MUST win the championship. If a team does not win the championship, they will be on probation until they are the champions, and coaches will be held accountable. If after two years they have not won the championship their footballs and equipment will be taken away UNTIL they do win the championship.

2. All kids will be expected to have the same football skills at the same time even if they do not have the same conditions or opportunities to practice on their own. NO exceptions will be made for lack of interest in football, a desire to perform athletically, or genetic abilities or disabilities of themselves or their parents. ALL KIDS WILL PLAY FOOTBALL AT A PROFICIENT LEVEL!

3. Talented players will be asked to work out on their own, without instruction. This is because the coaches will be using all their instructional time with the athletes who aren't interested in football, have limited athletic ability, or whose parents don't like football.

4. Games will be played year round, but statistics will only be kept in the 4th, 8th, and 11th game. It will create a New Age of Sports where every school is expected to have the same level of talent and all teams will reach the same minimum goals.
Looks like an excuse made up by a teacher who would rather b!tch about the program, than teach!
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What the heck was this person doing teaching in a computer lab. She should have been sent back to art or music or wherever she came from!
Looks like somebody didn't make the band when he was a kid.

This explains a lot.
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Looks like somebody didn't make the band when he was a kid.

This explains a lot.
Nope, didnt play an instrument, didn't try out, didn't make it. (obviously)

And don't care much if music (or art) teachers believes in "mystic" properties.
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Nope, didnt play an instrument, didn't try out, didn't make it. (obviously)

And don't care much if music (or art) teachers believes in "mystic" properties.
why do you keep insisting its music or art ??

what about teachers of Intelligent design.. ??
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why do you keep insisting its music or art ??

what about teachers of Intelligent design.. ??
You seem to be taking my comment overly narrowly.

As for ID, maybe you are once again confused about my opinion on the topic.
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You seem to be taking my comment overly narrowly.

I did not the first time you said it... you repeated it and thats when I commented...



what is wrong with that the teacher said.. she basically said something was causing the computers to go haywire.. so she put a static strap on him....

no like the teachers have time to investigate even if she was so inclined.. remember they need make sure the kids pass their "no kids left behind" exams
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I did not the first time you said it... you repeated it and thats when I commented...
It was only repeated as part of the same conversation.

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what is wrong with that the teacher said.. she basically said something was causing the computers to go haywire.. so she put a static strap on him....
I guess it depends on how you read it.

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no like the teachers have time to investigate even if she was so inclined.. remember they need make sure the kids pass their "no kids left behind" exams
She should know it has to be his, clothes, or something external, and not
" . . .something in his body chemistry, something in his makeup, that causes the computers to go haywire."

I made no comment about the amount of time she applied to it.

P.S. I don't think NCLB adds any tests, it just uses the standardized tests that exist to measure performance.
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I made no comment about the amount of time she applied to it.
But you attached this obvious flake of a teacher to music or art, indicating some level of disdain for those subjects, despite the wealth of data available that proves a causal link between fine arts students and superior performance in math, science, and literature, not to mention the simple fact that enjoyable electives such as fine arts or athletics tend to keep kids in school who might otherwise drop out.

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No Cids Left Behind? You weren't in band? Hmmm. Thanks for making my point! (Going to spell check this post carefully before I hit the "submit" button!)
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But you attached this obvious flake of a teacher to music or art, indicating some level of disdain for those subjects, despite the wealth of data available that proves a causal link between fine arts students and superior performance in math, science, and literature, not to mention the simple fact that enjoyable electives such as fine arts or athletics tend to keep kids in school who might otherwise drop out.
You have completely misread my post.

I have no disdain for the teachers of those subjects. I just do not care if they have a solid grasp of the basics of the physical sciences.

I am even slightly OK, if they prefer to attribute the unknown to mysticism.

However, computer, science, math and most other teachers, I prefer to be well grounded in the principles by which the physical world works.

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No Cids Left Behind? You weren't in band? Hmmm. Thanks for making my point! (Going to spell check this post carefully before I hit the "submit" button!)
Since your assertion as presented above is completely baseless, I will not hazard a guess as to what your "point" is.

Being as such, I highly doubt that I "made it" for you.

Maybe if you can state it clearly, we can see if it was made at all.
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Here is some more info. Some will think its funny. Teachers will tell you there is nothing funny about it, its the truth.


The Football Version of What is Going on in Education.

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4. Games will be played year round, but statistics will only be kept in the 4th, 8th, and 11th game. It will create a New Age of Sports where every school is expected to have the same level of talent and all teams will reach the same minimum goals.
I love it!! I would totally agree with that one. Yes, I am a teacher....
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I love it!! I would totally agree with that one. Yes, I am a teacher....
Really???

Can you take each one and provide the direct example, because from what I have read and experienced, I don't see how a single one fits.
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