Points system? - Honda Pilot

smurray · 09-12-2003, 06:45 PM

Anyone who tried to log on last night should have found that we had a homework assignment. If you didn't try to log on, or if you didn't see admin's post check out this points thread from our sister site http://www.acuramdx.org.

He wanted our opinion on this system. It looks to me that most of the bugs have been worked out and it appears they are starting to accumulate and spend their points. Admin should be able to tell us if there has been a lot of 'post whoring' since implementing the points system as that was one of the big concerns, quantity not quality posts.

Anyway, let me be the first to weigh in with my opinion, I like it the idea but I don't know if we need to encourage posting. I don't think a question goes unanswered for more than 30 minutes here. I think people are helping out and posting some great information.

Points, like them but I don't see the need yet.

SteveLuman · 09-12-2003, 06:58 PM

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Originally posted by smurray
Anyone who tried to log on last night should have found that we had a homework assignment. If you didn't try to log on, or if you didn't see admin's post check outthis points thread from our sister site http://www.acuramdx.org.

He wanted our opinion on this system. It looks to me that most of the bugs have been worked out and it appears they are starting to accumulate and spend their points. Admin should be able to tell us if there has been a lot of 'post whoring' since implementing the points system as that was one of the big concerns, quantity not quality posts.

Anyway, let me be the first to weigh in with my opinion, I like it the idea but I don't know if we need to encourage posting. I don't think a question goes unanswered for more than 30 minutes here. I think people are helping out and posting some great information.

Points, like them but I don't see the need yet.

I think it is only good for threaddrift. A bunch of BS posts will appear.

my3kids · 09-12-2003, 07:14 PM

I thought it would make it more fluff and less information. I think things are really good as they are now....but I could have fun changing peoples tags(the labels under their names) Sounded like you could use points for that. I'd have so much fun doing that that I'd never have any points for shopping anyway.

Twinkie · 09-12-2003, 07:43 PM

I don't like the idea of getting points just for posting or starting a thread.

I like the idea of getting points for the number of views and/or replies for threads you started. Then, the points would at least indicate who initiated popular if not useful/interesting threads. Then, those who accumulate points could award them to others for valuable/interesting posts. Under this scenario, if I had points, I would try to award them to users that provided a valuable answers or directed someone to another thread, etc. I think if we did it this way, the points could possibly reflect your useful activity to the group.

I am a little less sure about the ability to take away points from someone by rating their posts. I see how if people saw that someone thought their post was less than contributory to the group that it might encourage the poster to rethink what they post. On the other hand, if we could develop roving gangs of thugs with Weapons of Mass Point Removal that target elements of our group that they think are evil. This would significantly reduce the value of this function.

I'm not going to vote yet, as I am still pondering....

borg · 09-12-2003, 08:53 PM

There is no need for points system in this forum, in my opinion it has more cons than pros....just look at the X site.

The best thing about this forum are the genuine people who devote their time & share their knowledge & expertise to others seeking advice or opinions on whatever topic. They don't expect points/rewards in return, just the knowledge that they have helped another member or guest & vice versa is enough recognition for their contributions.

krygny · 09-12-2003, 08:55 PM

Sounds similar to what they do over at /. but they call it "karma".

robrecht · 09-12-2003, 09:24 PM

When they instituted the point system over at acuramdx.org, some people became really childish and obnoxiously competitive and petty. Why mess with a great website?

There are some really great people here--we don't need a point system to encourage us. Generous people post, research, and share their knowledge and enthusiasm for the sheer joy of it.

What better reward could there be?

Oh, and THANKS again for a great website!

**colorider** · 09-12-2003, 09:28 PM

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Originally posted by borg

There is no need for points system in this forum, in my opinion it has more cons than pros....just look at the X site.

The best thing about this forum are the genuine people who devote their time & share their knowledge & expertise to others seeking advice or opinions on whatever topic. They don't expect points/rewards in return, just the knowledge that they have helped another member or guest & vice versa is enough recognition for their contributions.

WOW!!!

I'm getting where I like how Borg thinks more and more every day!!!! I agree completely!!!

We don't need no steeeenkin' points!!

*** EDITED BY KEMOSABE ***

colorider is being assimilated by borg -- resistance is futile and discussion is irrelevant!!!

tim.s · 09-12-2003, 09:35 PM

If the "rewards" can be kept to things which won't tick off other members, then it might not be too bad. But I'd hate to see excessive posts, random threads, and thread repeats just to build someone's point total.

kbusaf · 09-12-2003, 10:58 PM

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Originally posted by colorider
WOW!!! I'm getting where I like how Borg thinks more and more every day!!!! I agree completely!!!

We don't need no steeeenkin' points!!

Ditto! I think this site ROCKS. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." I vote for no points

kemosabe · 09-12-2003, 11:02 PM

Now's as good a time as any to use this smilie:

I'm not a big fan of the points system... I think that if this site had minimal participation and inactive forums, then implementing a points system to encourage members to participate (and guests to register/join) would be beneficial...

...but the honda-pilot.org web site already has great participation with a good mix of information and comraderie that I don't think we need to mess with it...

Just my 3¢

yolk · 09-12-2003, 11:26 PM

I would like to echo many of the sentiments expressed here against the points system, in particular the fear of proliferation of repeat or frivolous threads and the fact that the knowledge of helping others is reward enough.

I believe that at the moment we have a great site and good social dynamics and we should keep it as it is... at least for now.

RipRocK · 09-13-2003, 12:03 AM

Hey Admin, thanks for offering to do more work for us to get the points system incorporated on this site. But I agree with the majority here. We like it just the way it is

**admin** · 09-13-2003, 12:03 AM

Well, thanks for all your input, it seems that your sentiments match those of the mdx site. No points here.

SteveLuman · 09-13-2003, 12:42 AM

Glaf to hear that the points program was nixed. Games would be nice though.

View Poll Results: Should we adopt the points system like the mdx site
Yes, great idea. I cant wait!	5	13.51%
Yes, I like the idea but not sure about the implementation.	2	5.41%
I am not sure how I feel yet.	2	5.41%
No, I don't want to participate but knock yourselves out.	7	18.92%
No, dont even get me started. BAD IDEA!!!	21	56.76%
Voters: 37. You may not vote on this poll

09-12-2003, 06:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
smurray Super Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 964 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Points system? Anyone who tried to log on last night should have found that we had a homework assignment. If you didn't try to log on, or if you didn't see admin's post check out this points thread from our sister site http://www.acuramdx.org. He wanted our opinion on this system. It looks to me that most of the bugs have been worked out and it appears they are starting to accumulate and spend their points. Admin should be able to tell us if there has been a lot of 'post whoring' since implementing the points system as that was one of the big concerns, quantity not quality posts. Anyway, let me be the first to weigh in with my opinion, I like it the idea but I don't know if we need to encourage posting. I don't think a question goes unanswered for more than 30 minutes here. I think people are helping out and posting some great information. Points, like them but I don't see the need yet.

09-12-2003, 07:43 PM	#4 (permalink)
Twinkie Super Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Washington Posts: 449 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I don't like the idea of getting points just for posting or starting a thread. I like the idea of getting points for the number of views and/or replies for threads you started. Then, the points would at least indicate who initiated popular if not useful/interesting threads. Then, those who accumulate points could award them to others for valuable/interesting posts. Under this scenario, if I had points, I would try to award them to users that provided a valuable answers or directed someone to another thread, etc. I think if we did it this way, the points could possibly reflect your useful activity to the group. I am a little less sure about the ability to take away points from someone by rating their posts. I see how if people saw that someone thought their post was less than contributory to the group that it might encourage the poster to rethink what they post. On the other hand, if we could develop roving gangs of thugs with Weapons of Mass Point Removal that target elements of our group that they think are evil. This would significantly reduce the value of this function. I'm not going to vote yet, as I am still pondering.... __________________ '03 Nighthawk Black Pearl EX-L #26,097 Side steps, Chrome Bumper Garnish, Rear Splashguards, FormFit Air Deflector, Cargo Tray, Center Console Foam Pads, New Lower Friction Door Seals (ah, sweet silence)

09-12-2003, 08:53 PM	#5 (permalink)
borg cloak'd M E M B E R Join Date: May 2003 Location: Victoria BC, CANADA Posts: 1,759 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	There is no need for points system in this forum, in my opinion it has more cons than pros....just look at the X site. The best thing about this forum are the genuine people who devote their time & share their knowledge & expertise to others seeking advice or opinions on whatever topic. They don't expect points/rewards in return, just the knowledge that they have helped another member or guest & vice versa is enough recognition for their contributions. __________________ 2003 Honda PILOT EX L / borg Edition

09-12-2003, 08:55 PM	#6 (permalink)
krygny Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NY Panhandle(c) Posts: 2,831 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Karma Sounds similar to what they do over at /. but they call it "karma". __________________ 2003 EX-L, Sage Brush Pearl Side Steps • Rear Splash Guards • Cross Bars • Cargo Tray • Cargo Cover • All-Season Floor Mats • StreetPilot ColorMap • WeatherTech WeatherFlectors • Fortera TripleTreds

09-12-2003, 07:14 PM	#3 (permalink)
my3kids Super Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 461 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I thought it would make it more fluff and less information. I think things are really good as they are now....but I could have fun changing peoples tags(the labels under their names) Sounded like you could use points for that. I'd have so much fun doing that that I'd never have any points for shopping anyway.

09-12-2003, 09:24 PM	#7 (permalink)
robrecht Super Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: East Amwell, New Jersey Posts: 4,141 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	When they instituted the point system over at acuramdx.org, some people became really childish and obnoxiously competitive and petty. Why mess with a great website? There are some really great people here--we don't need a point system to encourage us. Generous people post, research, and share their knowledge and enthusiasm for the sheer joy of it. What better reward could there be? Oh, and THANKS again for a great website! __________________ Thanks, Robrecht! Charcoalishlygreenishbluishyrealpink&tealfleck metallic EXL-RES with Rumble Seat, Foglights, Chrome Bumper Garnish (of course!), and Merrywang Transport Netting. And an RX-8 or Miata for my twice daily hill climb.

09-12-2003, 09:35 PM	#9 (permalink)
tim.s Super Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: US Posts: 2,564 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	If the "rewards" can be kept to things which won't tick off other members, then it might not be too bad. But I'd hate to see excessive posts, random threads, and thread repeats just to build someone's point total. __________________ Hands free device = good Not buckling your kids = bad '06 Black EXL-Navi: autodim mirror, many cargo accessories, mud guards, ODB II, and wwong's console pads. '06 Black Volvo XC90 2.5T '03 Black EXL-RES: side steps, autodim mirror, many cargo accessories, roof rack, and mud guards. --> traded in '06 for XC90

09-12-2003, 11:26 PM	#12 (permalink)
yolk Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: CT Posts: 234 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I would like to echo many of the sentiments expressed here against the points system, in particular the fear of proliferation of repeat or frivolous threads and the fact that the knowledge of helping others is reward enough. I believe that at the moment we have a great site and good social dynamics and we should keep it as it is... at least for now. __________________ <body><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" style="text-align: left; width: 100%;"><tbody><tr><td style="vertical-align: bottom; width: 100px; vertical-align: bottom; height: 55px;"><img src="attachment.php?s=&postid=71313" style="width: 86px; height: 49px;"></td><td style="vertical-align: bottom;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">'03 <span style="color: gray;">Starlight Silver </span>Pilot EX<br>Rear Splash Guards, All-Season Mats, Cargo Tray, Wheel Locks, <a href="http://www.hondapilot.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=49803#post49802"><spa n style="color: rgb(0, 153, 0);">Tire</span> <span style="color: rgb(255,204,0);">Min</span><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><span style="color: rgb(255,204, 0);">d</span>ers</span></a>, <a href="http://www.hondapilot.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=71774#post71774" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Lund <span style="color: silver;">Clear</span> Air Deflector</a>, <a href="http://www.hondapilot.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=72557#post72557"><spa n style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">i</span>Que 3600</a>, Zaino</span></td></tr></tbody></table><br></body> <a <a href="http://spreadfirefox.com/community/?q=affiliates&id=2591&t=75"><img alt="Get Firefox!" title="Get Firefox!" src="http://www.spreadfirefox.com/community/images/affiliates/Buttons/120x60/trust.gif"/></a>

09-13-2003, 12:03 AM	#13 (permalink)
RipRocK Super Duper Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Edmonton, AB., Canada, eh!! Posts: 2,388 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hey Admin, thanks for offering to do more work for us to get the points system incorporated on this site. But I agree with the majority here. We like it just the way it is

09-13-2003, 12:03 AM	#14 (permalink)
admin Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 301 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well, thanks for all your input, it seems that your sentiments match those of the mdx site. No points here.

09-13-2003, 12:42 AM	#15 (permalink)
SteveLuman 2003 SS EX-L RES Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,117 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Glaf to hear that the points program was nixed. Games would be nice though.

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