Oil Filter Picture - Side by Side - Honda Pilot

tvanhouten · 10-09-2004, 06:28 PM

Ok, so I'm just slightly concerned about the new smaller OEM filter. I bought one anyway and will probably take it back. Now that I see the difference between the size next to the Mobil1, how could I bring myself to use the smaller OEM?

The dealer says not to worry and Honda USA will back the new filter regardless of size. Does this go back to the old saying "Bigger is Better!" ???

tvanhouten · 10-09-2004, 06:29 PM

Sorry that I left the picture out... Here it is below:

N_Jay · 10-09-2004, 06:38 PM

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Originally posted by tvanhouten
Sorry that I left the picture out... Here it is below:

Looks like the M-1 filer is using a flat gasket, and the Honda filter is using an O-ring.

Hmmm?????

jestmaty · 10-10-2004, 03:10 PM

Changed my oil for 1st time last Friday. Mileage was 3750. Here is the factory filter and what Honda sold me.

jestmaty · 10-10-2004, 03:12 PM

another shot for clarity

N_Jay · 10-10-2004, 03:23 PM

Is the new filter taller?

Maybe there is not that much difference in filter medium size?

jestmaty · 10-10-2004, 04:37 PM

Nope!! Same size

Dac · 10-12-2004, 12:05 AM

Stuff like that worries me,why would Honda change stuff that's so vital to the car's longevity ?,this weekend i will change the oil in our Pilot and i'm curios as in what size the "OEM" if it's larger that the "dealer's OEM

" ...i'll post the results,i have bought 2 Amsoil oil filters (pricey @ $21.00 cnd

) and wednesday i will pick the special order of 3 K&N oil filters @ $12.99cnd/ea.

Dac

geopilot · 10-12-2004, 10:04 AM

Here's a nice comparison of the old and new Honda OEM filters. Found the link in an old post here somewhere- can't find the original post- sorry.

http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/oilfi...r_comparo.html

N_Jay · 10-12-2004, 10:28 AM

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Originally posted by Dac
Stuff like that worries me,

Don't let it!

Quote:

Originally posted by Dac
,why would Honda change stuff that's so vital to the car's longevity ?,

Because they know a whole lot more about what the car needs than you, I, or the "Internet"!

Quote:

Originally posted by Dac
this weekend i will change the oil in our Pilot and i'm curios as in what size the "OEM" if it's larger that the "dealer's OEM " ...i'll post the results,i have bought 2 Amsoil oil filters (pricey @ $21.00 cnd ) and wednesday i will pick the special order of 3 K&N oil filters @ $12.99cnd/ea.
Dac

If you must, but remember, the factory filter change intervle is up to 15,000 miles, so I would not be concerned about it.

MCScott · 10-28-2004, 03:48 PM

It's all the progression of design and application. The new filter most likely has been better matched to the job of getting the Pilot through the warranty period, not too much, not too little. And it most likely costs less to make and less to ship and less to store and works in more places. That's progress by the definition of the one making the vehicle. Besides, there are not standards for oil filters. Most people don't give the filter much though, one way or the other. The price spread if from about $1.75 to $12.00 and not one of them has an API or ACEA or anyother rating.

Remember, the new car buyer is Honda's customer, not the guy somewhere down the line.

FamilyGuy · 10-28-2004, 05:20 PM

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Originally posted by geopilot
Here's a nice comparison of the old and new Honda OEM filters. Found the link in an old post here somewhere- can't find the original post- sorry.

http://www.tegger.com/honda_filter_comparo.html

There's an awful lot of information to absorb on that page... WOW! some people can be really anal about oil filters........

Interesting find geopilot.

10-09-2004, 06:28 PM	#1 (permalink)
tvanhouten Done right, done yourself Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Idaho Posts: 104 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Oil Filter Picture - Side by Side Ok, so I'm just slightly concerned about the new smaller OEM filter. I bought one anyway and will probably take it back. Now that I see the difference between the size next to the Mobil1, how could I bring myself to use the smaller OEM? The dealer says not to worry and Honda USA will back the new filter regardless of size. Does this go back to the old saying "Bigger is Better!" ???

10-10-2004, 03:23 PM	#6 (permalink)
N_Jay Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Chicago, NW Burbs Posts: 13,550 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Is the new filter taller? Maybe there is not that much difference in filter medium size? __________________ However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results. Sir Winston Churchill

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Dac Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Earth Posts: 228 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	hmmmm...... Stuff like that worries me,why would Honda change stuff that's so vital to the car's longevity ?,this weekend i will change the oil in our Pilot and i'm curios as in what size the "OEM" if it's larger that the "dealer's OEM " ...i'll post the results,i have bought 2 Amsoil oil filters (pricey @ $21.00 cnd ) and wednesday i will pick the special order of 3 K&N oil filters @ $12.99cnd/ea. Dac

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10-10-2004, 04:37 PM	#7 (permalink)
jestmaty Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Katy, Tx Posts: 1,263 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Nope!! Same size

10-12-2004, 10:04 AM	#9 (permalink)
geopilot Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 37 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Here's a nice comparison of the old and new Honda OEM filters. Found the link in an old post here somewhere- can't find the original post- sorry. http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/oilfi...r_comparo.html

10-28-2004, 03:48 PM	#11 (permalink)
MCScott Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	It's all the progression of design and application. The new filter most likely has been better matched to the job of getting the Pilot through the warranty period, not too much, not too little. And it most likely costs less to make and less to ship and less to store and works in more places. That's progress by the definition of the one making the vehicle. Besides, there are not standards for oil filters. Most people don't give the filter much though, one way or the other. The price spread if from about $1.75 to $12.00 and not one of them has an API or ACEA or anyother rating. Remember, the new car buyer is Honda's customer, not the guy somewhere down the line.

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