Front brakes - Honda Pilot

mj33067 · 05-03-2004, 06:44 AM

Hi, can someone please post a picture of the front brakes from the service manual. I am changing them and a picture would be cool. Thank you.

**colorider** · 05-03-2004, 07:46 AM

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Originally posted by mj33067
Hi, can someone please post a picture of the front brakes from the service manual. I am changing them and a picture would be cool. Thank you.

Sorry - can't help you out on a picture - but I'm sure someone here that has the service manual can. Kemo?

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kemosabe · 05-03-2004, 06:17 PM

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Originally posted by colorider

Sorry - can't help you out on a picture - but I'm sure someone here that has the service manual can. Kemo?

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I just got done scanning 260 pages of the owners manual -- I'm all scannered out... Sorry!

Birdman · 05-03-2004, 11:13 PM

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sungchang · 05-04-2004, 05:09 AM

Looks like a pretty standard Honda disc brakes. Thanks for pics. Btw, anyone know how long the brakes (f and b) are lasting?

lxblack · 05-04-2004, 11:35 AM

My dealer told me that front brake will last about 25K-35K but I am hoping it will last longer than that... My Toyota lasted 95K.

I should depend on your driving habit and pattern...

john802 · 05-04-2004, 11:56 AM

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Originally posted by lxblack
My dealer told me that front brake will last about 25K-35K but I am hoping it will last longer than that... My Toyota lasted 95K.

I should depend on your driving habit and pattern...

Also the weight of the vehicle will be a factor.

N_Jay · 05-04-2004, 12:11 PM

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Originally posted by john802

Also the weight of the vehicle will be a factor.

I think all our Pilots weigh about the same.

Driving style/conditions account for the differences in wear.

37K and the originals are doing fine. (wife drives the Pilot)

john802 · 05-04-2004, 12:25 PM

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Originally posted by N_Jay

I think all our Pilots weigh about the same.

Driving style/conditions account for the differences in wear.

37K and the originals are doing fine. (wife drives the Pilot)

lxblack mentioned that his Toyota's brakes lasted 95K and he was hoping that his Pilot's brakes will do the same and I just mentioned that aside from driving habit and pattern, he should consider the weight of the vehicle as another factor in why the Pilot's brakes doesn't last as long as his Toyota.

-john

Titans Fan · 05-04-2004, 01:45 PM

I don't know what model of Toyota he was refering to, but the brakes on the 4-Runner (that our Pilot replaced) lasted nowhere near 95k; not even half that. And we had a recurring problem with warping on the brakes, too.

lxblack · 05-04-2004, 10:00 PM

It was my lexus ls400. It is a fairly heavy car... with V8 engine...
It lasted a long long time... rear brake lasted even longer...

sungchang · 05-05-2004, 03:09 AM

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Originally posted by N_Jay
37K and the originals are doing fine. (wife drives the Pilot)

That's good to know. I would be upset at less than 30k mentioned above.

pilot4me · 05-05-2004, 07:43 AM

For what it's worth I'm in Atlanta and drive 70 miles a day back and forth from work and I have 49k with about another 10k to go.

When time I will put on after market rotors in the front because of the vibration when stopping from 70 mph.

was999 · 05-06-2004, 04:15 PM

There are many factors in how long brake pads last - I had a race car where they'd last 2 races (which was up from my record 1 race and out pads). The pad wear is a factor of the material the pad is made of, the hardness of the pad, the weight of the vehicle and *very important here* the driving style of the individual.

I'd rather have a soft, not-too-abrasive pad that burns out faster if it gives me good pedal response and really great stopping times. Brake pads are cheap.

You can build brakes to last a long time or stop really well, but it's hard to do both (unless the brake system is as big as the wheel

Your rear pads should ALWAYS last longer - most of the vehicle weight will shift to the front on braking, which is why front pads are always larger than rears. An interesting thing I've been seeing is the move toward more balanced braking in euro-vehicles. They change the brake balance more to the rear so the car kind of feels like an anchor was thrown out on heavy braking. Apparently it was done to improve wet/snow braking, but the terrible side effect is the rear pads burn out FAST. They changed the balance without upgrading the rear brake system so more force == more heat == burned pads.

05-03-2004, 06:44 AM	#1 (permalink)
mj33067 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: S Florida Posts: 10 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Front brakes Hi, can someone please post a picture of the front brakes from the service manual. I am changing them and a picture would be cool. Thank you.

05-04-2004, 05:09 AM	#6 (permalink)
sungchang Super Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: California Posts: 541 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Looks like a pretty standard Honda disc brakes. Thanks for pics. Btw, anyone know how long the brakes (f and b) are lasting? __________________ <b><i><font color=blue>'04 Midnight Blue Pearl Pilot EXL-Navi</font></i></b> <ul><li><u>OEM</u>: tow package (heavy), running boards, crossbars, rear splash guards, cargo cover, cargo net, chrome exhaust tips <li><u>3rd Party</u>: Vizualogic headrest DVD system, Husky Liners (front and 2nd rows), Yakima Blacktop Pro 16s roof box, BVG XE2 Evolution bike rack, Prince Lionheart Seatsavers (2), wwong's foam pads, pillar protectors and navi screen protector </ul><i>'00 Nighthawk Black Pearl Acura 3.2TL</i>

05-04-2004, 11:35 AM	#7 (permalink)
lxblack Die Hard Day Hiker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 226 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	have 26K My dealer told me that front brake will last about 25K-35K but I am hoping it will last longer than that... My Toyota lasted 95K. I should depend on your driving habit and pattern... __________________ Dan from SoCal Black LX, Tow Package, Mud Guard, Security system, Roof Rack, Tinted all windows, Bike Rack, DYI

05-04-2004, 01:45 PM	#11 (permalink)
Titans Fan Super Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Middle Tennessee Posts: 1,283 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I don't know what model of Toyota he was refering to, but the brakes on the 4-Runner (that our Pilot replaced) lasted nowhere near 95k; not even half that. And we had a recurring problem with warping on the brakes, too. __________________ '03 Pilot EX Silver Fog lights, side steps, Hollandia sunroof, cargo cover, crossbars, splash guards, '04 horns, & a bunch of wwong's 3M goodies '99 CRV

05-04-2004, 10:00 PM	#12 (permalink)
lxblack Die Hard Day Hiker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 226 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	my toyota It was my lexus ls400. It is a fairly heavy car... with V8 engine... It lasted a long long time... rear brake lasted even longer... __________________ Dan from SoCal Black LX, Tow Package, Mud Guard, Security system, Roof Rack, Tinted all windows, Bike Rack, DYI

05-05-2004, 07:43 AM	#14 (permalink)
pilot4me Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Dallas, Georgia Posts: 99 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	For what it's worth I'm in Atlanta and drive 70 miles a day back and forth from work and I have 49k with about another 10k to go. When time I will put on after market rotors in the front because of the vibration when stopping from 70 mph. __________________ <b>2003 Honda Pilot Starlight Silver Metallic</b>, EXL-(RES -aftermarket), #15933, Side Steps, Air (Bug) Deflector, Rear Splash Guards & Crossbars, Honda swapped out Goodyear?s for Cross Terrains back to a <b>new version of the Goodyear?s, plus new rims ? no vibration to date!!!</b> <b>2002 Honda CRV EX-(L aftermarket)</b>, Perfect Fit Air (Bug) Deflector <b>QUADRUPLETS ON THE WAY!!</b> â€“ Due June 30, 2005 â€“ Arrive probably in April early May.

05-06-2004, 04:15 PM	#15 (permalink)
was999 Junior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Brake pads, schmake pads There are many factors in how long brake pads last - I had a race car where they'd last 2 races (which was up from my record 1 race and out pads). The pad wear is a factor of the material the pad is made of, the hardness of the pad, the weight of the vehicle and very important here the driving style of the individual. I'd rather have a soft, not-too-abrasive pad that burns out faster if it gives me good pedal response and really great stopping times. Brake pads are cheap. You can build brakes to last a long time or stop really well, but it's hard to do both (unless the brake system is as big as the wheel Your rear pads should ALWAYS last longer - most of the vehicle weight will shift to the front on braking, which is why front pads are always larger than rears. An interesting thing I've been seeing is the move toward more balanced braking in euro-vehicles. They change the brake balance more to the rear so the car kind of feels like an anchor was thrown out on heavy braking. Apparently it was done to improve wet/snow braking, but the terrible side effect is the rear pads burn out FAST. They changed the balance without upgrading the rear brake system so more force == more heat == burned pads.

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