rear differential maintenance - Honda Pilot

lynnsherrill · 04-26-2003, 12:08 PM

Does anyone know the part number for the VTM-4 rear differential fluid?
Thanks

Have gotten prices of $35-$129 for this service

davemac · 04-26-2003, 02:33 PM

08200-9003 lists for $21.38/gallon
need 2 new washers as well (they're different from each other)

there's another thread on this (if you want to do a "search"). This is a really simple job- easier than a regular engine oil change.

jay · 04-26-2003, 09:36 PM

I was quoted $85 to do the service. While I follow the severe schedule for everything else, the dealer actually told me to wait and do the first VTM-4 service using the normal schedule- 15,000 miles, then 30,000 and every 30,000 thereafter.

lxblack · 05-20-2003, 12:45 PM

I can't find the thread about the rear-differential service you've posted... You had a step by step instruction how to do it... Did they get rid of the thread? If you know where it is, let me know. It used to be several pages long...

Anyway, my dealer wants $45 for the service, which is very reasonable, but I bought the gallon of oil anyway.
They parts guy (I think he is little green) gave me same size crush washer and I told him that I think they should be different size, and he told me just bring it back if it doesn't fit (eyeball rolling...).

What, in the middle of the service, I am gonna get in my wife's car and bring him the washer I took out from the car?

But that was the best he can do...

Maybe if you gave me specific size of the crush washer, it would've helped... Thanks anyway thought, your posts are very informative and helpful.

davemac · 05-20-2003, 01:24 PM

Here you go Rear Differential Fluid Change

My experience with the fluid change begins on page 3.
Yes, you probably want to have the correct washers at the beginning of the job (for obvious reasons). I had to re-use one (they're very similar to the washers on the engine oil plug), and plan to replace when changing the VTM4 fluid at the 30k mile interval... no leaks.

BTW, Dan, thanks for the compliment on the quality of my posts. Glad to share my technical/general experiences with my Pilot over the last year (one year Pilot anniversary in a couple weeks). Nice to know I don't need to attach off topic comic strips to be appreciated

lxblack · 05-20-2003, 02:07 PM

It turns out my webpage only displays 30 days worth of thread. Once I looked at your thread, I figured it out, duh...

BTW, are you gonna do your own brakes? Did you replace the pads yet? If you have done it already, you might want to post on the brake job? thread...

Thanks again

kemosabe · 05-20-2003, 03:06 PM

From another thread...

Quote:

Originally posted by davemac
Nighthawk,

Well said, (and also meaning no disrespect to others) I share your sentiment whole heartedly. Unfortunately there is no way one can elect to filter out the "Off Topic"/ threaddrift stuff. Luckily though, there still is the "search" feature should we need to check back to tap the knowledge base.

[ S N I P P E D ]

From this thread...

Quote:

Originally posted by davemac

[ S N I P P E D ]

BTW, Dan, thanks for the compliment on the quality of my posts. Glad to share my technical/general experiences with my Pilot over the last year (one year Pilot anniversary in a couple weeks). Nice to know I don't need to attach off topic comic strips to be appreciated

Interesting (and recurring) theme by davemac...

(I had a funny comic strip to share here...)

ramirami · 05-20-2003, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kemosabe
From another thread...

From this thread...

Interesting (and recurring) theme by davemac...

(I had a funny comic strip to share here...)

there are wise guys everywhere.....dont worry...

hey how about that comic strip

kemosabe · 05-20-2003, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ramirami

there are wise guys everywhere.....dont worry...

hey how about that comic strip

Me? Worry?

How about a comic strip about wise guys, ramirami???

lxblack · 05-22-2003, 11:07 AM

Did mine yesterday.
Easy job to DIY. The fluid was thinner than I expected... I expected a thick gear oil...

Had some metal shavings on the plug (not that much...), and had a little trouble getting it all off of it. It kept sticking to it.

For some reason, my pump didn't fit on the gallon jug opening... It was too big... It got little messy. It ended up using about 2.75 quarts of it.

The top bolt is bigger and the two crush washer they sold me didn't fit the top bolt, so I had to re-use the crush washer. I did flip it, hope it doesn't develop a leak. I will keep an eye on it, so far it hasn't...

You would think the dealer would know the correct size of the crush washer...

hop23 · 05-23-2003, 02:52 AM

The fill plug washer is 20mm, and the drain plug washer is 18mm, while the engine oil drain plug washer is 14mm.

lxblack · 05-23-2003, 10:49 AM

thanks HOP23

It would've been very useful to know when I was at the dealer ordering these things. The guy at the part counter was clueless... and didn't care...

I now know, and I will make a note of it for next purchase.

Also for the fluid pump, I bought it from Autozone, it says it will fit most gallon jub cap, but it was too big for the honda fluid jug... Oh, well.

04-26-2003, 12:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
lynnsherrill Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: kingwooc texas Posts: 1 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	rear differential maintenance Does anyone know the part number for the VTM-4 rear differential fluid? Thanks Have gotten prices of $35-$129 for this service

04-26-2003, 02:33 PM	#2 (permalink)
davemac Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NE Mass Posts: 385 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	08200-9003 lists for $21.38/gallon need 2 new washers as well (they're different from each other) there's another thread on this (if you want to do a "search"). This is a really simple job- easier than a regular engine oil change. __________________ current: '11 Acura MDX previous: '11 Pilot EX-L '04 Pilot EX-L '03 Pilot EX-L

04-26-2003, 09:36 PM	#3 (permalink)
jay Super Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Manassas, VA Posts: 11,116 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I was quoted $85 to do the service. While I follow the severe schedule for everything else, the dealer actually told me to wait and do the first VTM-4 service using the normal schedule- 15,000 miles, then 30,000 and every 30,000 thereafter. __________________ 2012 Toyota Highlander Hybrid Limited "When you get to the fork in the road, take it." --Yogi Berra

05-20-2003, 12:45 PM	#4 (permalink)
lxblack Die Hard Day Hiker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 226 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	davemac... I can't find the thread about the rear-differential service you've posted... You had a step by step instruction how to do it... Did they get rid of the thread? If you know where it is, let me know. It used to be several pages long... Anyway, my dealer wants $45 for the service, which is very reasonable, but I bought the gallon of oil anyway. They parts guy (I think he is little green) gave me same size crush washer and I told him that I think they should be different size, and he told me just bring it back if it doesn't fit (eyeball rolling...). What, in the middle of the service, I am gonna get in my wife's car and bring him the washer I took out from the car? But that was the best he can do... Maybe if you gave me specific size of the crush washer, it would've helped... Thanks anyway thought, your posts are very informative and helpful. __________________ Dan from SoCal Black LX, Tow Package, Mud Guard, Security system, Roof Rack, Tinted all windows, Bike Rack, DYI

05-20-2003, 01:24 PM	#5 (permalink)
davemac Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NE Mass Posts: 385 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Here you go Rear Differential Fluid Change My experience with the fluid change begins on page 3. Yes, you probably want to have the correct washers at the beginning of the job (for obvious reasons). I had to re-use one (they're very similar to the washers on the engine oil plug), and plan to replace when changing the VTM4 fluid at the 30k mile interval... no leaks. BTW, Dan, thanks for the compliment on the quality of my posts. Glad to share my technical/general experiences with my Pilot over the last year (one year Pilot anniversary in a couple weeks). Nice to know I don't need to attach off topic comic strips to be appreciated __________________ current: '11 Acura MDX previous: '11 Pilot EX-L '04 Pilot EX-L '03 Pilot EX-L

05-20-2003, 02:07 PM	#6 (permalink)
lxblack Die Hard Day Hiker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 226 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thanks It turns out my webpage only displays 30 days worth of thread. Once I looked at your thread, I figured it out, duh... BTW, are you gonna do your own brakes? Did you replace the pads yet? If you have done it already, you might want to post on the brake job? thread... Thanks again __________________ Dan from SoCal Black LX, Tow Package, Mud Guard, Security system, Roof Rack, Tinted all windows, Bike Rack, DYI

05-22-2003, 11:07 AM	#10 (permalink)
lxblack Die Hard Day Hiker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 226 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	VTM fluid replaced Did mine yesterday. Easy job to DIY. The fluid was thinner than I expected... I expected a thick gear oil... Had some metal shavings on the plug (not that much...), and had a little trouble getting it all off of it. It kept sticking to it. For some reason, my pump didn't fit on the gallon jug opening... It was too big... It got little messy. It ended up using about 2.75 quarts of it. The top bolt is bigger and the two crush washer they sold me didn't fit the top bolt, so I had to re-use the crush washer. I did flip it, hope it doesn't develop a leak. I will keep an eye on it, so far it hasn't... You would think the dealer would know the correct size of the crush washer... __________________ Dan from SoCal Black LX, Tow Package, Mud Guard, Security system, Roof Rack, Tinted all windows, Bike Rack, DYI

05-23-2003, 02:52 AM	#11 (permalink)
hop23 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 263 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	crush washers The fill plug washer is 20mm, and the drain plug washer is 18mm, while the engine oil drain plug washer is 14mm. __________________ 2003 Pilot EX-L-NAV Sagebrush Pearl 2002 Odyssey EX-L-RES Havasu Blue

05-23-2003, 10:49 AM	#12 (permalink)
lxblack Die Hard Day Hiker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 226 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	useful thanks HOP23 It would've been very useful to know when I was at the dealer ordering these things. The guy at the part counter was clueless... and didn't care... I now know, and I will make a note of it for next purchase. Also for the fluid pump, I bought it from Autozone, it says it will fit most gallon jub cap, but it was too big for the honda fluid jug... Oh, well. __________________ Dan from SoCal Black LX, Tow Package, Mud Guard, Security system, Roof Rack, Tinted all windows, Bike Rack, DYI

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