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Old 07-30-2008, 03:31 AM   #46 (permalink)
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I believe that the plastic bar we cut and removed was in place to protect the front of your shins in the case of a severe frontal impact.
Actually, the plastic bar that is removed to get to the cabin air filter is not there for any kind of crash protection. It is molded into the dash structure in order to facilitate dash installation and alignment at the factory. The dash is first installed as a single unit. The plastic bar prevents the bottom of the dash to spread as the assembly is bolted in. As the final step, the metal bar is bolted into the structure of the vehicle.

The metal bar, in fact, constitutes the safety structure and the dash integrity mechanism, not the plastic bar. Once the metal bar is bolted to the structure of the vehicle, the plastic bar has no further function, safety or otherwise. It’s only there as a convenience to the assembly line workers. Ever wonder why things are so well lined up? It’s one of Honda’s many little secrets.

Take a look at the metal structure under the dash, on the driver's side. It's even more robust and complex.
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Old 07-30-2008, 04:17 AM   #47 (permalink)
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Actually, the plastic bar that is removed to get to the cabin air filter is not there for any kind of crash protection. It is molded into the dash structure in order to facilitate dash installation and alignment at the factory. The dash is first installed as a single unit. The plastic bar prevents the bottom of the dash to spread as the assembly is bolted in. As the final step, the metal bar is bolted into the structure of the vehicle.

The metal bar, in fact, constitutes the safety structure and the dash integrity mechanism, not the plastic bar. Once the metal bar is bolted to the structure of the vehicle, the plastic bar has no further function, safety or otherwise. It’s only there as a convenience to the assembly line workers. Ever wonder why things are so well lined up? It’s one of Honda’s many little secrets.

Take a look at the metal structure under the dash, on the driver's side. It's even more robust and complex.
Actually, the plastic bar that is removed to get to the cabin air filter is not there for any kind of crash protection.

I can not challenge with any veracity, what you said regarding the dash installation because I don't have any knowledge of the installation procedure. However, if the metal bar is already screwed to the dash, before they set the dash in and screw the last 8 mm bolts to the underlying vehicle structure, why would they need the plastic bar at all, as the metal bar is already keeping the continuity of the dash in place?
Be that as it may, if you put your hand down where the shin bones of your legs would impact the bottom of the GB, mine came into direct contact with the edge of the metal bar only after I removed the plastic bar. I did not feel the metal bar at all before removal of the plastic one. Ergo, I will still screw mine back into place for protection, although I have no guarantee or proof that it will work.
You, of course, may do as you like! :-)
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Old 08-03-2008, 08:09 AM   #48 (permalink)
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Thanks for the easier DIY instructions ArmyStrong. This was my first cabin filter replacement on our second Pilot; much easier this time around compared to the last. HOOAH!
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1/2 hour well spent, thanks for the Pics
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1/2 hour well spent, thanks for the Pics
Very glad the pictures helped. The time I spent doing the post, is worth it when I get positive feedback from many Pilot Org members.
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Awesome instructions. Took me less than 30 minutes. Thanks.
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Old 08-25-2008, 11:49 AM   #52 (permalink)
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WOW 20 min start to finish. Next time 15 or less don't have to remove the plastic bar. I would like to go to work for Honda just replacing the filters. Man could make a good living working a couple days a week!!
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Old 10-22-2008, 04:15 PM   #53 (permalink)
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WOW 20 min start to finish. Next time 15 or less don't have to remove the plastic bar. I would like to go to work for Honda just replacing the filters. Man could make a good living working a couple days a week!!
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If you got several non-org members that are not willing to do this task, you are absolutely right, you could make a killing changing filters. I wouldn't mind working for Honda a couple hours on the weekend, but I like to tinker and do stuff to my own vehicles and pass on the experiences to others. That way we don't have to visit the dealers that make a killing from tasks like this one.

Glad this thread helped. Take Care..........JIM
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Thanks for your excellent "How to." It really makes a difference when pictures and normal language are used. You'd make a good technical writer.
I did the job and your instructions made all the difference.
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Old 11-04-2008, 01:42 PM   #55 (permalink)
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Thanks for your excellent "How to." It really makes a difference when pictures and normal language are used. You'd make a good technical writer.
I did the job and your instructions made all the difference.
I try to make it as simple as possible. I think next time I will include the verbage from the Operators Manual that way you can read what Honda wants you to do, including Torques, and then what my maintenance procedures are.
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thanks for this great faq... just changed our filter on our new (used from a smoker) 2008 pilot with 15k miles... filter was disgusting / black on both sides,...
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thanks for this great faq... just changed our filter on our new (used from a smoker) 2008 pilot with 15k miles... filter was disgusting / black on both sides,...
The filters installed at the factory are black because they have charcoal in them.
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The filters installed at the factory are black because they have charcoal in them.
I wonder if the activated carbon (charcoal) in only the initial "from the factory" filter is associated with off-gassing of the new plastics and foams as they cure (e.g. formaldehyde and the other chemicals that comprise the "new car smell"). Just a hypothesis, and I have no idea how one would attempt to verify it.
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I just changed my cabin filter with a Fram CF8813A FreshBreeze I bought from Amazon.com for less than $24. Big Thanks to Armystrong. Your wonderful step by step instructions made it so easy.
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Big thanks for the write-up!!! My 2004 had never had its cabin filter replaced and boy was it disgusting. Now I'll do it every year.
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