Tire wear/rotation

[OnHonda11]

2006 Pilot with 49,000 Kilometres on it. Recently had the truck into the dealer for routine service. Just noticed that when they rotated the tires, they put the pair that was almost down to the wearbar on the front. Is this normal or should the worn ones be on the rear? Not impressed with only getting 50 Kilometres out of a set of tires. I will likely be getting rid of the Pilot this fall or in the spring so I don't want to sink money into tires needlessly. Likely to get another Pilot or back to 'Oddy. Then I'd have to change my name to OnHonda12!

[N_Jay]

Originally posted by OnHonda11
2006 Pilot with 49,000 Kilometres on it. Recently had the truck into the dealer for routine service. Just noticed that when they rotated the tires, they put the pair that was almost down to the wearbar on the front. Is this normal or should the worn ones be on the rear? Not impressed with only getting 50 Kilometres out of a set of tires. I will likely be getting rid of the Pilot this fall or in the spring so I don't want to sink money into tires needlessly. Likely to get another Pilot or back to 'Oddy. Then I'd have to change my name to OnHonda12!

Why is one pair much worse than the other?
Have you been rotating them regularly?

[OnHonda11]

Originally posted by N_Jay


Why is one pair much worse than the other?
Have you been rotating them regularly?

To be perfectly honest, I haven't paid too much attention to them. I get the truck regularly serviced at the dealer. I know in the spring, they "seemed" pretty much even in terms of wear from front to back. All of the sudden, they're bald on the front. Should they be on the front or the rear. I know usually on a front wheel drive vehicle, the worn ones always go on the rear.

[N_Jay]

When you rotate tire you "rotate" them.
The backs end up on the front and the fronts end up on the back.

If you rotate then often enough then wear is even and you don't have to worry about this kind of thing.

[OnHonda11]

Thanks N'Jay. Back to the original question though; Where should the beefier tread beon the Pilot in particular... on the front or the rear? I would think the front being front wheel drive. Right?

[humanoid]

Yeah, I would put the "better" tires up front.

[N_Jay]

In general you want your "sticker" or "better" tires in the rear.

The reason if if you suddenly loose traction in the front it is MUCH more forgiving and easier to regain control then if you suddenly lose traction at the rear.

[xGS]

Originally posted by OnHonda11
Thanks N'Jay. Back to the original question though; Where should the beefier tread beon the Pilot in particular... on the front or the rear? I would think the front being front wheel drive. Right?

[http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=52].

Although this article covers where to install a new pair of tires, it still answers the question as to where the tires with greater wear should be mounted.

[Samuel2003]

Originally posted by humanoid
Yeah, I would put the "better" tires up front.

Originally posted by xGS
[http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=52].

Even though the above linked article says otherwise, I personally would also put the better tires on the front, especially on a front wheel drive car. I'd rather deal with my back end swinging than my front end "washing out" - I'm pretty comfortable drifting a car... (YMMV!).

[N_Jay]

Originally posted by Samuel2003




Even though the above linked article says otherwise, I personally would also put the better tires on the front, especially on a front wheel drive car. I'd rather deal with my back end swinging than my front end "washing out" - I'm pretty comfortable drifting a car... (YMMV!).

I like people who THINK like you. If you have had the rear end come around unexpectedly you might KNOW different.

[Samuel2003]

Originally posted by N_Jay


I like people who THINK like you. If you have had the rear end come around unexpectedly you might KNOW different.

Are you ASSuming that I have never had my rear end come around? I've had a "little bit" more than your average driver's training. I'm very comfortable with how I prefer to set up and drive a car (front or rear wheel drive). Like I said before, YMMV. Me, I'd rather lose my back end than my front...

[BigDozer66]

The new tires should be installed on the REAR whether it is a front or rear wheel drive.

Years ago it was always called 'fishtailing' or 'powersliding' but the kids now seem to call it 'drifting' but it is a situation where the rear of the car isn't tracking behind the front for whatever reason.

If your 'front' tires (the ones they just put on the front) are now worn out then it is time to replace at least 2 of them.
If you only want to replace 2 at a time then replace the Rear 2 and in 5,000 miles (KM's?) then replace the other 2 when you have them rotated.
I prefer to replace all of mine at the same time to keep the rotation and balancing even. My delaer rotates and balances them every 5,000 miles for free.

From what I gather from most Pilot owners these GY Integrity's are a 40,000 tire at best and in that case I will be replacing them at 30,000 miles or so.
I don't like "Slick Willy Slide-a-Lot" tires on any vehicle I own or drive.

I rotate my tires every 5,000 miles and check the air pressure every other time I fill up with gas.

Edited to change information that was posted and isn't correct.

BigDozer66

[OnHonda11]

Thanks everyone for your help and input on this.

[N_Jay]

Originally posted by BigDozer66
The new tires should be installed on the front whether it is a front or rear wheel drive.

If it is FWD then the better tires will be under the heavier load and will be the driven tires in a loss of traction situation.

If it is RWD then the better tires will be on the front under the heavier load but also on the steering tires in a loss of traction situation.

Please find me one industry reference that recommends your approach.

[Medic721]

N_Jay I am with you 100%. FWD or RWD better tires in the rear.

-Mike.