Frustrated w/Maintenance - Honda Pilot

sprocket · 07-19-2007, 03:13 PM

I took my 2006 Pilot EX-L with 34,000 miles in to the dealer for a few service items. I asked them to do a synthetic oil change, drain & fill differential and change the transmission fluid.

While there, I picked up their "Maintenance Guide". At 30K it suggests amog other things coolant replacement. My theory is to follow the maintenance minder. I am a severe driver in that I am in FL and tow a boat.

Dealer called suggesting I change the coolant. I have also looked at the Edmunds schedules.

WHO THE HE** ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO LISTEN TO?

The dealer is obviously trying to sell additional services. It is getting to the point where having service done is as bad as the car buying experience!

humanoid · 07-19-2007, 03:19 PM

Follow the MM or the owners manual. Never ever listen to what the guys at the $tealer say, they're just out to rape your wallet. FYI, the coolant is serviced at 100K miles.

sprocket · 07-19-2007, 04:57 PM

I know. I was just frustrated even though I knew it was coming.

Regarding the MM, when it calculates the oil life, how does it take into account that I use full synthetic oil? Does it actually measure the quality of the oil or ??

e2e · 07-19-2007, 05:52 PM

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Originally posted by sprocket
Regarding the MM, when it calculates the oil life, how does it take into account that I use full synthetic oil? Does it actually measure the quality of the oil or ??

I don't believe there's any adjustment in the calculation. Honda states that synthetics must follow the same change intervals as regular oil -- at least that's the case in my 2005 owner's manual.

jdeanski · 07-19-2007, 08:22 PM

In my opinion it all depends on how long you plan to keep the vehicle. If you plan to keep it long past the warranty period then follow the recommended schedule.....if, on the other hand you trade every few years then change the oil, put gas in it and don't worry!

deparson · 07-24-2007, 11:17 AM

No, it does not sample the quality of the oil thought I seem to recall a BMW or similar that does do that and it not being uncommon to get 15,000+ miles per oil change.

-D

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Originally posted by sprocket
I know. I was just frustrated even though I knew it was coming.

Regarding the MM, when it calculates the oil life, how does it take into account that I use full synthetic oil? Does it actually measure the quality of the oil or ??

sprocket · 07-24-2007, 12:30 PM

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Originally posted by deparson
No, it does not sample the quality of the oil thought I seem to recall a BMW or similar that does do that and it not being uncommon to get 15,000+ miles per oil change.

-D

It's too bad. Although I am providing premium protection using the synthetic, part of the advantage is the increased oil change interval. To some extent I am throwing money away by following the MM.

rocky · 07-24-2007, 04:51 PM

If you read and specify only the things on the list that Honda says, you'll save alot of money.

I had Boch do an oil change tire rotate at 375 $50. They wanted to do a bunch of nothings for another $120.

I said no.

sprocket · 07-24-2007, 08:10 PM

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Originally posted by rocky
If you read and specify only the things on the list that Honda says, you'll save alot of money.

I had Boch do an oil change tire rotate at 375 $50. They wanted to do a bunch of nothings for another $120.

I said no.

That is exactly what I did. I had them change the oil, VTM-4 and the transmission fluid. At 34K I may have been a little late on the VTM-4 since I tow frequently.

07-19-2007, 03:13 PM	#1 (permalink)
sprocket Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cent. FL Posts: 75 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Frustrated w/Maintenance I took my 2006 Pilot EX-L with 34,000 miles in to the dealer for a few service items. I asked them to do a synthetic oil change, drain & fill differential and change the transmission fluid. While there, I picked up their "Maintenance Guide". At 30K it suggests amog other things coolant replacement. My theory is to follow the maintenance minder. I am a severe driver in that I am in FL and tow a boat. Dealer called suggesting I change the coolant. I have also looked at the Edmunds schedules. WHO THE HE** ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO LISTEN TO? The dealer is obviously trying to sell additional services. It is getting to the point where having service done is as bad as the car buying experience! __________________ 2004 Lexus GX-470, Tow Package, Nav, Upgraded Stereo

07-19-2007, 03:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
humanoid Super Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sunny SoCal Posts: 2,970 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Follow the MM or the owners manual. Never ever listen to what the guys at the $tealer say, they're just out to rape your wallet. FYI, the coolant is serviced at 100K miles. __________________ 2005 EX-L Sage Brush Pearl -->OEM Running Boards, OEM rear mud guards, OEM crossbars, AVS bug deflector, 5000K HIDs, OEM Accord EX emblem, full sized spare, Hella FF 75 driving lamps, Nifty CatchAll Mats <------------ click here first, n0oB!!!

07-19-2007, 04:57 PM	#3 (permalink)
sprocket Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cent. FL Posts: 75 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I know. I was just frustrated even though I knew it was coming. Regarding the MM, when it calculates the oil life, how does it take into account that I use full synthetic oil? Does it actually measure the quality of the oil or ?? __________________ 2004 Lexus GX-470, Tow Package, Nav, Upgraded Stereo

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jdeanski Drill Here, Drill Now Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: North Florida Posts: 1,839 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	In my opinion it all depends on how long you plan to keep the vehicle. If you plan to keep it long past the warranty period then follow the recommended schedule.....if, on the other hand you trade every few years then change the oil, put gas in it and don't worry! __________________ 2004 Starlight Silver, OEM Self installed accessories: Rear Splash Guards, Running Boards, Trailer Hitch with Wiring Harness, Auto Dim Mirror, Cargo Tray, Chrome Exhaust Tips. Non OEM self installed: PIAA Extreme White Headlight Bulbs, USA Spec 6 Disc OEM type Changer, Polk db 65 speakers in front and rear doors, K&N Filter, Hardwired Valentine V1, Redline Water Wetter, Weathertech License Plate Frame, In Channel Weatherflectors, Audiovox Express, Catch-All Premium Mats, Michelin Cross Terrain's, Real Rosewood Dash Kit from Sherwood, Fullsize Spare, Bosch Micro Edge Excel Wiper Blades, T-Rex Billet Grill, Mobil 1 0w20 Oil, TYC clear taillights, garmin nuvi 660 1984 Jeep CJ7 2004 Pontiac Vibe

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07-24-2007, 04:51 PM	#8 (permalink)
rocky Super Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Red Sox Nation Posts: 7,173 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	If you read and specify only the things on the list that Honda says, you'll save alot of money. I had Boch do an oil change tire rotate at 375 $50. They wanted to do a bunch of nothings for another $120. I said no.

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