Changing timing belt - Honda Pilot

markjmay · 09-25-2005, 01:15 PM

Trying to change the timing belt on my '03 pilot. Crankshaft pulley bolt seems to want to stick...can't get it loose, even with an impact wrench. A straight breaker bar just turns the engine. Any tips on how to get this loose?

RipRocK · 09-26-2005, 02:14 AM

Forgive my ignorance, but is this what you're looking for? It's the fourth pictures posted in the thread.

I remember reading this thread a while back when I used to frequent the site looking for a possible solution to my pinging/ratchety sound problem and thinking how his handle was appropriate. And I mean that in a complementary way

john802 · 09-26-2005, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by markjmay
Trying to change the timing belt on my '03 pilot. Crankshaft pulley bolt seems to want to stick...can't get it loose, even with an impact wrench. A straight breaker bar just turns the engine. Any tips on how to get this loose?

You need a Honda/Acura Harmonic Damper pulley holder to remove the bolt.

markjmay · 09-26-2005, 11:19 AM

Thanks guys. I had searched hondapilot.org for timing belt, but didn't see very many discussions. Didn't know I should have been on the acura board!

I guess it off to Honda to buy that tool (and something to protect my ribcage as well).

PsychoKnight is right about needing tiny hands and tiny tools to work on the Pilot. Believe it or not, swapping the entire drivetrain on my Kia disposable sedan was easier than getting at the Pilot timing belt (don't ask why I was swapping the entire drivetrain on a disposable sedan, but suffice it to say that it prompted the timing belt change on the Pilot).

Thanks

Mark in MA

rocky · 09-26-2005, 12:27 PM

How many miles before this job has to be done? Was always an expensive one on a Corolla

john802 · 09-26-2005, 06:46 PM

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Originally posted by rocky
How many miles before this job has to be done? Was always an expensive one on a Corolla

105,000 miles/168,000 km or 84 months for the timing belt.

msteffe · 10-17-2005, 09:42 PM

Hello,

Just wondering if you had any feedback as to how hard a job this is? I've done a timing belt/water pump on a 90 Civic and a 92 Audi so I am not too foreign to the process. Doesn't look all that bad, just wondering if there are any gotcha's along the way. About how long does it take? Anyone know what the stealership charges for this service? That may make the decision for me...

I need to find a procedure (or buy a service manual), I don't know why I keep putting that off. Is the OEM honda pilot service manual any good?

Thanks!

ipomoea · 10-17-2005, 09:54 PM

I couldn't find the estimates for the Pilot, but we had the timing belt changed recently on our 99 CRV for about $245. We also had the TB change on an 92 Accord we previously owned, and it was "around" $300 (that was a long time ago, but I remember it wasn't cheap).

lxblack · 10-18-2005, 11:49 AM

Markjmay, that's a lot of miles for 3 years old car... I wonder who has the most miles on Pilot and who's already done this service, either DIY or by stealership?

Quote:

Originally posted by markjmay
Trying to change the timing belt on my '03 pilot. Crankshaft pulley bolt seems to want to stick...can't get it loose, even with an impact wrench. A straight breaker bar just turns the engine. Any tips on how to get this loose?

markjmay · 10-18-2005, 03:10 PM

The wife put on 85,000 in 3 years. Since I just had a broken timing belt destroy my motor on my other disposable sedan, I figured I should change the belt on the Pilot. I received my crank pulley tool from Amazon.com yesterday ($12.97 plus shipping), so I think I'm ready to tackle this job. About $120 it looks like to do it (manual: $70, tool: $13, timing belt: $37).

Not sure how many beers it will take yet.

Mark in MA

Caf2461 · 10-18-2005, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by markjmay
The wife put on 85,000 in 3 years. Since I just had a broken timing belt destroy my motor on my other disposable sedan, I figured I should change the belt on the Pilot. I received my crank pulley tool from Amazon.com yesterday ($12.97 plus shipping), so I think I'm ready to tackle this job. About $120 it looks like to do it (manual: $70, tool: $13, timing belt: $37).

Not sure how many beers it will take yet.

Mark in MA

Is the Pilot a zero clearance motor? ie will the valves hit the pistons if this is not done?

xGS · 10-18-2005, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by markjmay
The wife put on 85,000 in 3 years. Since I just had a broken timing belt destroy my motor on my other disposable sedan, I figured I should change the belt on the Pilot. I received my crank pulley tool from Amazon.com yesterday ($12.97 plus shipping), so I think I'm ready to tackle this job. About $120 it looks like to do it (manual: $70, tool: $13, timing belt: $37).

Not sure how many beers it will take yet.

Mark in MA

So, you're not going to change the water pump while everything else is apart?

To put it another way, are you sure that the water pump won't need replacing before 210,000 miles?

msteffe · 10-19-2005, 12:59 AM

From my experience of doing two other timing belt jobs I would strongly encourage anyone who is changing their timing belt to go ahead and change out the water pump while you are in there. It's usually just a matter of a few extra bolts. Well worth it for the peace of mind that your water pump isn't going to seize after you get it all back together with your new timing belt (and thus have to more or less redo the job again).

I think I am going to replace my accessory and power steering belts while I am at it as they look to be easily accessible during this job as well. I got 89,000 miles on my 03 Pilot so this job is right around the corner for me

msteffe · 10-19-2005, 01:09 AM

From my experience of doing two other timing belt jobs I would strongly encourage anyone who is changing their timing belt to go ahead and change out the water pump while you are in there. It's usually just a matter of a few extra bolts. Well worth it for the peace of mind that your water pump isn't going to seize after you get it all back together with your new timing belt (and thus have to more or less redo the job again).

I think I am going to replace my accessory and power steering belts while I am at it as they look to be easily accessible during this job as well. I got 89,000 miles on my 03 Pilot so this job is right around the corner for me

lxblack · 10-19-2005, 10:49 AM

That's a good question...
Where can we get this info?

Maybe someone with Odyssey have info on this? as they have the same motor?

09-25-2005, 01:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
markjmay Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 25 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Changing timing belt Trying to change the timing belt on my '03 pilot. Crankshaft pulley bolt seems to want to stick...can't get it loose, even with an impact wrench. A straight breaker bar just turns the engine. Any tips on how to get this loose?

10-17-2005, 09:54 PM	#8 (permalink)
ipomoea Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Northeast La Posts: 252 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I couldn't find the estimates for the Pilot, but we had the timing belt changed recently on our 99 CRV for about $245. We also had the TB change on an 92 Accord we previously owned, and it was "around" $300 (that was a long time ago, but I remember it wasn't cheap). __________________ 2003 EX-L Starlight Si, Perfect Fit Deflector, Rear Splash Guards, V51311, 50K. 15-19MPG City, 22MPG Hwy, AC on high 1999 CR-V LX, Sebring Si, 159K and counting, 25MPG Mostly Hwy-- A diesel-powered Honda in '09? _______________ Pilot nits/fixes: SRS Reprogramming, tranny fix, driver's seat plastic trim fix (2X), rear storage latch fix, suspension fix, brake shim fix, and from time to time, creaks (or rattles?) from behind the dashboard, 70 +/- 2 MPH vibration. V nits/fixes: road noise; timing belt replaced @ 65K, "idle assembly" replaced @ 150K

10-19-2005, 10:49 AM	#15 (permalink)
lxblack Die Hard Day Hiker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 226 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Zero Clearance Motor? That's a good question... Where can we get this info? Maybe someone with Odyssey have info on this? as they have the same motor? __________________ Dan from SoCal Black LX, Tow Package, Mud Guard, Security system, Roof Rack, Tinted all windows, Bike Rack, DYI

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09-26-2005, 02:14 AM	#2 (permalink)
RipRocK Super Duper Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Edmonton, AB., Canada, eh!! Posts: 2,388 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Forgive my ignorance, but is this what you're looking for? It's the fourth pictures posted in the thread. I remember reading this thread a while back when I used to frequent the site looking for a possible solution to my pinging/ratchety sound problem and thinking how his handle was appropriate. And I mean that in a complementary way

09-26-2005, 11:19 AM	#4 (permalink)
markjmay Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 25 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thanks guys. I had searched hondapilot.org for timing belt, but didn't see very many discussions. Didn't know I should have been on the acura board! I guess it off to Honda to buy that tool (and something to protect my ribcage as well). PsychoKnight is right about needing tiny hands and tiny tools to work on the Pilot. Believe it or not, swapping the entire drivetrain on my Kia disposable sedan was easier than getting at the Pilot timing belt (don't ask why I was swapping the entire drivetrain on a disposable sedan, but suffice it to say that it prompted the timing belt change on the Pilot). Thanks Mark in MA

09-26-2005, 12:27 PM	#5 (permalink)
rocky Super Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Red Sox Nation Posts: 7,173 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	How many miles before this job has to be done? Was always an expensive one on a Corolla

10-17-2005, 09:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
msteffe Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 27 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hello, Just wondering if you had any feedback as to how hard a job this is? I've done a timing belt/water pump on a 90 Civic and a 92 Audi so I am not too foreign to the process. Doesn't look all that bad, just wondering if there are any gotcha's along the way. About how long does it take? Anyone know what the stealership charges for this service? That may make the decision for me... I need to find a procedure (or buy a service manual), I don't know why I keep putting that off. Is the OEM honda pilot service manual any good? Thanks!

10-18-2005, 03:10 PM	#10 (permalink)
markjmay Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 25 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The wife put on 85,000 in 3 years. Since I just had a broken timing belt destroy my motor on my other disposable sedan, I figured I should change the belt on the Pilot. I received my crank pulley tool from Amazon.com yesterday ($12.97 plus shipping), so I think I'm ready to tackle this job. About $120 it looks like to do it (manual: $70, tool: $13, timing belt: $37). Not sure how many beers it will take yet. Mark in MA

10-19-2005, 12:59 AM	#13 (permalink)
msteffe Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 27 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	From my experience of doing two other timing belt jobs I would strongly encourage anyone who is changing their timing belt to go ahead and change out the water pump while you are in there. It's usually just a matter of a few extra bolts. Well worth it for the peace of mind that your water pump isn't going to seize after you get it all back together with your new timing belt (and thus have to more or less redo the job again). I think I am going to replace my accessory and power steering belts while I am at it as they look to be easily accessible during this job as well. I got 89,000 miles on my 03 Pilot so this job is right around the corner for me

10-19-2005, 01:09 AM	#14 (permalink)
msteffe Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 27 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	From my experience of doing two other timing belt jobs I would strongly encourage anyone who is changing their timing belt to go ahead and change out the water pump while you are in there. It's usually just a matter of a few extra bolts. Well worth it for the peace of mind that your water pump isn't going to seize after you get it all back together with your new timing belt (and thus have to more or less redo the job again). I think I am going to replace my accessory and power steering belts while I am at it as they look to be easily accessible during this job as well. I got 89,000 miles on my 03 Pilot so this job is right around the corner for me

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