Brake costs

[N_Jay]

Just got a Quote from teh dealer for front and rear brakes.
Normal replacement, nothing broken.

$331 PER AXLE!!!!!!!

What have people been spending?

[colorider]

Originally posted by N_Jay
Just got a Quote from teh dealer for front and rear brakes.
Normal replacement, nothing broken.

$331 PER AXLE!!!!!!!

What have people been spending?

Sheesh - at that price you better get a kiss because you are getting..... no I won't say it.

[N_Jay]

Originally posted by colorider


Sheesh - at that price you better get a kiss because you are getting..... no I won't say it.

Its worse that that.
The Pilot is in getting the 60k mile service.

SO, take the $331 per axle, delete off the flat rate time included for things like bringing it in and getting it on the rack (since that is already covered under the other service)

Now delete off whatever time is accounted for pulling the wheels, since it was getting a tire rotation.

Now delete whatever time is associated with whatever they do for a non-replacement brake service. (check the pads, lube the slides, ect.)

Now delete the time for the brake bleed, since it was getting its 3 year brake fluid replacement)

If they had given me a decent price quote (like they should have) I probabaly woul dhave bought new front rotors rather tha haveing them turned!!

[colorider]

Originally posted by N_Jay


Its worse that that.

IMHO, time to find a good quality independent shop!!!!!

[RFM]

Originally posted by N_Jay
Now delete off whatever time is accounted for pulling the wheels, since it was getting a tire rotation.

Yea, this is the kind of stealer crap that gets me...they are already removing each wheel for other service, so all they have to do is put them back on in a rotated order, but they'll charge you a full fee for the rotation as if they were doing that alone. When you are having this kind of work done they should "throw in" the rotation (at least) as no charge.

With all that work, they should have been able to quote you a price that accounted for the non-duplication of effort rather than just adding up the "ala-carte" services. I'd be looking for another dealer's quote.

[N_Jay]

Originally posted by RFM
Yea, this is the kind of stealer crap that gets me...they are already removing each wheel for other service, so all they have to do is put them back on in a rotated order, but they'll charge you a full fee for the rotation as if they were doing that alone. When you are having this kind of work done they should "throw in" the rotation (at least) as no charge.

With all that work, they should have been able to quote you a price that accounted for the non-duplication of effort rather than just adding up the "ala-carte" services. I'd be looking for another dealer's quote.

They are a good dealer in every way EXCEPT for issues like this.

[krygny]

Originally posted by N_Jay
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If they had given me a decent price quote (like they should have) I probabaly woul dhave bought new front rotors rather tha haveing them turned!!

Mostly, they don't bother to cut rotors anymore. Certainly if they're warped but even if they're worn or polished. Removing more material prevents them from cooling as well. As they used to cost well over $100 to replace, they're now generally about $50 apiece. I just had them replaced on my other car - about $120 for the basic front disk brake job and another $100 for the rotors. Par for the course around here.

I'd prefer to have my Pilot serviced by the stealer, but they make it such a hassle. I had my oil changed there this morning and I also wanted them to rotate the tires (not balance). So, they tried to sell me their so-called "B Service" ( ) for $120 - basically an oil change, rotate and balance the tires, and ostensibly "inspect" a gazillion things (which means they do nothing). I just got the oil change and even that was $25 with a coupon !! Like it's such a great deal.

[PChiu]

My Honda dealer quoted me at Can$250 front for pads only during a regular maintenance, no cutting of rotor.

I went to my indepent mechanic, as he wants $200, but end up $450 for both front and rear pads and bleeding fluid, no cutting of rotor, at roughly 60k km, all in Canadian $.

[Sunday Rider]

Originally posted by N_Jay


They are a good dealer in every way EXCEPT for issues like this.

Why is it some dealers do some stuff okay, and then other stuff feels like you are getting screwed?

I am also sure if anyone can get a great price from the dealer it would be you. LOL

Have you tried doing them yourself? The pads are straight forward (have done them on motorbike and Explorer). Though I don't know about the rotors. I found an independent garage that works Hondas and Toyotas only. He will charge labour and you can supply the parts or he can do both.
I am sure there is someone like that in your area.

[N_Jay]

Originally posted by Sunday Rider


Why is it some dealers do some stuff okay, and then other stuff feels like you are getting screwed?

I am also sure if anyone can get a great price from the dealer it would be you. LOL

Have you tried doing them yourself? The pads are straight forward (have done them on motorbike and Explorer). Though I don't know about the rotors. I found an independent garage that works Hondas and Toyotas only. He will charge labour and you can supply the parts or he can do both.
I am sure there is someone like that in your area.

I used to do all my own work (Except alignment and transmission rebuilds), but these days I am a bit too busy.
I might do them myself. If I do, I will just throw on a new set of rotors and not worry about it for another 60K miles.

I just bugged my about the pricing. The 'Service adviser' (quotes used to show title not qualifications) said he has no flexibility and suggested I write it up to put in teh suggestion box.

He did say they include cutting the rotors with all brake jobs. I have a bit a warping, but not enough to complain about (Probably enough for SOME to complain about)

[Bugshu]

http://www.midas.com/products/brakes.aspx

Usually at least once per year you cand find a special at Midas on lifetime brakes. Ive never seen Midas come anywhere close to wanting almost $700 to change the brakes. If I have problems with the service department ripping me off I go into my salesmans office or the sales managers office and tell him that if it happens again I will not be back to buy my next car from that dealership. Its not uncommon for the sales manager to make a call and a re-evaluation of the service quote to be submitted.

I dont fight for every last penny when I buy a car but I dont put up with a lot of nonsense after Ive purchased it. $700 for a basic brake job is outrageous.

Happy Piloting All,



Bugshu

[Bugshu]

Actually Midas is running a promotion at the moment.

http://www.midas.com/promotions/offers_us.aspx

I dont know how much the labor would be but somehow if the brakes cost $80 then I doubt they would charge $500 for labor. Midas is cheaper and it comes with a lifetime guarantee so that in the future at least you would get free pads should they need to be replaced again in another 60K miles.

Happy Piloting All,



Bugshu

[N_Jay]

Originally posted by Bugshu
Actually Midas is running a promotion at the moment.

http://www.midas.com/promotions/offers_us.aspx

I dont know how much the labor would be but somehow if the brakes cost $80 then I doubt they would charge $500 for labor. Midas is cheaper and it comes with a lifetime guarantee so that in the future at least you would get free pads should they need to be replaced again in another 60K miles.

Happy Piloting All,



Bugshu

Free pads are a rip off.
It is not the pads that cost, it is teh labor and all the extra services they try to sell you.

Try going in and asking for your next set of pad "To Go"! See how "free" they are.

I will propbably just buy Honda parts from Tim and do it myself.
Should not take more than an hour or 2 with new rotors and the fresh brake clean/brake bleed they just did.

[b7xv]

Originally posted by N_Jay
Just got a Quote from teh dealer for front and rear brakes.
Normal replacement, nothing broken.

$331 PER AXLE!!!!!!!

What have people been spending?

I read farther down and found that you have 60,000 miles on your pilot. I just had the 30,000 mile service done at 32,000 miles. Front and rear breaks checked, 11mm is the brand new thickness of the front pads, mine are 9 mm, worn out at 2 mm, 9mm is new thickness of rear pads, mine are 7.5mm and worn out at 2mm. From this I should be able to go until at least 105,000 miles before I replace breaks, why are yours worn at 60,000 miles? I occassionally tow a 3600 pound boat, travel on the freeway a bit, etc. and I have put all these miles on in 14 months. Not only does the price sound out of line, but the wear out time seems early too.

[N_Jay]

Originally posted by b7xv

I read farther down and found that you have 60,000 miles on your pilot. I just had the 30,000 mile service done at 32,000 miles. Front and rear breaks checked, 11mm is the brand new thickness of the front pads, mine are 9 mm, worn out at 2 mm, 9mm is new thickness of rear pads, mine are 7.5mm and worn out at 2mm. From this I should be able to go until at least 105,000 miles before I replace breaks, why are yours worn at 60,000 miles? I occassionally tow a 3600 pound boat, travel on the freeway a bit, etc. and I have put all these miles on in 14 months. Not only does the price sound out of line, but the wear out time seems early too.

Well they are 15% and 20% left, so they will need to be done in the next oil change or 2.

Maybe I'm hard on brakes (Who,ME? ).

I think 60K to 70 K is respectable. I also don't think brake wear is linear.

I am not sure if our salty midwest winters speed things up at all.