Does your Pilot burn oil? - Honda Pilot

MG Pilot · 04-01-2005, 04:05 PM

I go 7500 or so between oil changes and it seems to me that the oil level on my dipstick is at or near the bottom line on the scale after the 7500 miles. I use 5 qts total per oil change.

Has anyone else noticed this?

robrecht · 04-01-2005, 04:11 PM

No, that seems like a lot of oil that you're burning (or leaking)--are you sure you got that right?

MG Pilot · 04-01-2005, 04:14 PM

I don't smell any oil being burnt at all. All I know is this...I could be wrong...

When I fill up the crankcase with oil, it seems to go to the top mark. After 7500 miles, and maybe perhaps becasue the oil is dark and easy to see, it seems to be at the lower mark.

RFM · 04-01-2005, 04:32 PM

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Originally posted by MG Pilot
When I fill up the crankcase with oil, it seems to go to the top mark. After 7500 miles, and maybe perhaps becasue the oil is dark and easy to see, it seems to be at the lower mark.

Are you checking the level after a change but before you run the engine? I could be wrong, but it seems to me that once you start up the engine the oil filter is going to fill with some of that oil so the dipstick level will then be lower than it was when before the filter got charged.

Also, are you waiting several minutes after shutting off the engine before you check the level? It takes a little time for oil to drain out of the engine back to the pan to see if the level is "right" according to your dipstick. (See the manual under the topic of Changing the Oil and Filter.) Lastly, are you sure you aren't leaking oil rather than burning it?

MG Pilot · 04-01-2005, 04:35 PM

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Originally posted by RFM
Are you checking the level after a change but before you run the engine? I could be wrong, but it seems to me that once you start up the engine the oil filter is going to fill with some of that oil so the dipstick level will then be lower than it was when before the filter got charged.

Also, are you waiting several minutes after shutting off the engine before you check the level? It takes a little time for oil to drain out of the engine back to the pan to see if the level is "right" according to your dipstick. (See the manual under the topic of Changing the Oil and Filter.) Lastly, are you sure you aren't leaking oil rather than burning it?

I check the oil after runnning the engine and then waiting a few minutes.

There are no leaks as my garage floor is perfectly clean. According to the Ody and MDX sites, burning a qt every 7500 miles is considered normal...

2004 PILOT · 04-01-2005, 06:10 PM

Doesn't the manual say 5.1 qts for the pilot. Maybe you're not putting enough oil in at fill up.

thomasj2 · 04-01-2005, 06:39 PM

Do you see the oil level changing over time? Please don't tell me you never check your oil level between changes.

Mine drops about 1/8 of an inch on the dipstick in 7500 miles. Hardly noticeable. I also check my oil every week, (gotta add windshield washer fluid anyways).

Titans Fan · 04-01-2005, 06:41 PM

I generally change the oil at around 5000 miles; for the last few hundred miles before that (4500 to 4800 or so) the oil level is still at the full mark (but that's with a hot engine).

krygny · 04-02-2005, 07:22 AM

Being "down" one quart, or less, in 7500 miles would be considered "normal". Sure, I have no perceptible loss of oil (probably no more than 1/4 quart) between oil changes and that's great. But you only need to add oil after it drops below a qt., and if you don't need to do it between changes, there's no problem. Hey, even if you had to add a qt. once between changes, it wouldn't be a big deal. That's why most cars come with a place to add oil.

At what point do you do an engine overhaul? That's a personal choice.

P.S. It shouldn't really matter whether you check the oil with the engine hot or cold. As long as it's not running.

**colorider** · 04-02-2005, 08:10 AM

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Originally posted by Titans Fan
I generally change the oil at around 5000 miles; for the last few hundred miles before that (4500 to 4800 or so) the oil level is still at the full mark (but that's with a hot engine).

This is consistent with my practice and experience, although I avoid checking the oil with a hot engine - usually check in the mornings before driving.

BTW, I have never had a Honda engine in any of my motorcycles "use" oil (nor any other Japanese bike).

YMMV

sblvro · 04-04-2005, 08:43 AM

what burning oil already? Well, I do not see any decrease in my oil. Then again, I am using M1 0/30

N_Jay · 04-04-2005, 08:50 AM

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Originally posted by krygny

P.S. It shouldn't really matter whether you check the oil with the engine hot or cold. As long as it's not running.

But it does matter how soon after shutting it off you check the oil.

Give it a good 5 min for the oil to get back into the pan.

Cold is easiest to get consitant results.

Also, check it teh moring after an oil change. You may not be starting full.

dirk877 · 02-14-2008, 02:31 PM

I change the oil at 5000 miles...

Usually down a quart...

It is pretty dark also...

No worries...

04-01-2005, 04:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
MG Pilot Super Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Minneapolis Suburbs Posts: 920 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Does your Pilot burn oil? I go 7500 or so between oil changes and it seems to me that the oil level on my dipstick is at or near the bottom line on the scale after the 7500 miles. I use 5 qts total per oil change. Has anyone else noticed this? __________________ '03 Starlight Silver EX-L...Rear Splash Guards, Cargo Tray, All-Season Mats (Husky Liners In Front), Trailer Hitch, 3M Clear Nose Mask, K&N Performance Air and Oil Filters, Mobil1 5W-20 Oil, Sylvania Silver Star Bulbs, FS Spare, Michelin X Terrains, Bosch Micro Edge Excel Wiper Blades, Amsoil ATF, Bosch Premium Oil Filters, Purolator PureONE Oil Filters, Fumoto Oil Drain Valve, Akebono Ceramic Pads, Brembo Rotors-

04-01-2005, 04:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
robrecht Super Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: East Amwell, New Jersey Posts: 4,141 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	No, that seems like a lot of oil that you're burning (or leaking)--are you sure you got that right? __________________ Thanks, Robrecht! Charcoalishlygreenishbluishyrealpink&tealfleck metallic EXL-RES with Rumble Seat, Foglights, Chrome Bumper Garnish (of course!), and Merrywang Transport Netting. And an RX-8 or Miata for my twice daily hill climb.

04-01-2005, 04:14 PM	#3 (permalink)
MG Pilot Super Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Minneapolis Suburbs Posts: 920 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I don't smell any oil being burnt at all. All I know is this...I could be wrong... When I fill up the crankcase with oil, it seems to go to the top mark. After 7500 miles, and maybe perhaps becasue the oil is dark and easy to see, it seems to be at the lower mark. __________________ '03 Starlight Silver EX-L...Rear Splash Guards, Cargo Tray, All-Season Mats (Husky Liners In Front), Trailer Hitch, 3M Clear Nose Mask, K&N Performance Air and Oil Filters, Mobil1 5W-20 Oil, Sylvania Silver Star Bulbs, FS Spare, Michelin X Terrains, Bosch Micro Edge Excel Wiper Blades, Amsoil ATF, Bosch Premium Oil Filters, Purolator PureONE Oil Filters, Fumoto Oil Drain Valve, Akebono Ceramic Pads, Brembo Rotors-

04-01-2005, 06:10 PM	#6 (permalink)
2004 PILOT Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NEW YORK Posts: 56 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Doesn't the manual say 5.1 qts for the pilot. Maybe you're not putting enough oil in at fill up. __________________ 2004 Pilot EX-L Midnight Black Pearl Black Honda side step bars Rear Mud Guards

04-01-2005, 06:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
Titans Fan Super Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Middle Tennessee Posts: 1,283 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I generally change the oil at around 5000 miles; for the last few hundred miles before that (4500 to 4800 or so) the oil level is still at the full mark (but that's with a hot engine). __________________ '03 Pilot EX Silver Fog lights, side steps, Hollandia sunroof, cargo cover, crossbars, splash guards, '04 horns, & a bunch of wwong's 3M goodies '99 CRV

04-01-2005, 06:39 PM	#7 (permalink)
thomasj2 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 184 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Do you see the oil level changing over time? Please don't tell me you never check your oil level between changes. Mine drops about 1/8 of an inch on the dipstick in 7500 miles. Hardly noticeable. I also check my oil every week, (gotta add windshield washer fluid anyways).

04-02-2005, 07:22 AM	#9 (permalink)
krygny Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NY Panhandle(c) Posts: 2,831 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Being "down" one quart, or less, in 7500 miles would be considered "normal". Sure, I have no perceptible loss of oil (probably no more than 1/4 quart) between oil changes and that's great. But you only need to add oil after it drops below a qt., and if you don't need to do it between changes, there's no problem. Hey, even if you had to add a qt. once between changes, it wouldn't be a big deal. That's why most cars come with a place to add oil. At what point do you do an engine overhaul? That's a personal choice. P.S. It shouldn't really matter whether you check the oil with the engine hot or cold. As long as it's not running. __________________ 2003 EX-L, Sage Brush Pearl Side Steps • Rear Splash Guards • Cross Bars • Cargo Tray • Cargo Cover • All-Season Floor Mats • StreetPilot ColorMap • WeatherTech WeatherFlectors • Fortera TripleTreds

04-04-2005, 08:43 AM	#11 (permalink)
sblvro Super Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: chicago&michigan&arkansas Posts: 2,043 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	what burning oil already? Well, I do not see any decrease in my oil. Then again, I am using M1 0/30 __________________ 2003 starlight silver pilot EX-LRES 2003 black onyx Lexus IS300 1988 mitsubishi galant sigma 203000 miles and running 2006 evolution IX MR(RIP) 2009 black raven escalade hybrid http://www.doctorownedcars.com/

02-14-2008, 02:31 PM	#13 (permalink)
dirk877 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 64 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I change the oil at 5000 miles... Usually down a quart... It is pretty dark also... No worries... __________________ 2005 Honda Pilot EX 148,362 Miles

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