Royal Purple Motor Oil .....

[Dac]

Hi everybody,is anyone using this engine oil in their Pilot or other cars ?,i find it to be attractively priced ,kinda Mobil 1 territory and much cheaper than Red Line (i'm still sold on Red Line ).By looking at the specs on this oils they appear to be group 4 so in theory they are a close competitor to Red Line.What are your guys opinions on this product ?
Thank you.

P.S. Borg,RipRock and XPhile have you guys been to Mopac Auto Supply yet ?,it's on 170 St (just north of Stony Plain Rd.) kinda just across the street from JB's Auto and Visions Electronics.They too have Red Line and this other premium oils,Royal Purple (full line).By looking at Mopac's main site they are only in western Canada because i was going to tell Sunday Rider to check them out too but he's down east.... .

[Sunday Rider]

Thanks for looking it up Dac.
I was at a local shop, and saw the Royal Purple, it was around 10.50 a litre, a little cheaper than the Red Line which was at 12.50.

I will talk to the owner and see if I can get a break if I order a case.

They didn't have 5W20 in either brand though, so maybe a deal is in the works.

Thanks,


by the way, Canadian Tire didn't have the oil, they said they were discontinuing it.

[XPhile]

What are the prices for the Royal Purple Oil?

I might have to go there Christmas Eve, after fighting the shopping crowd at West Edmonton Mall with this...

[borg]

I've driven by the Mopac store numerous times........reminds me of MOPAR/Chrysler/Dodge, thats why I havent checked 'em out!

[Dac]

Mopac sells Royal Purple for about $ 7 and change a liter and if you buy a case of 12 they take off 10% too ,and that makes it a very attractive !,the guy there also told me that the color of the oil is actually purple .....can you believe it,i guess it may help when checking the oil level "....is any purple on it ?",Mopac's Red Line is priced the same like the competition at about $ 10.30/liter.
I emailed Royal Purple and i got a reply from their oil man and he confirmed that Royal Purple is a group 4 oil,meaning that it's on par with Red Line but at $ 3 off per liter .
Thank you guys .
Dac

[Larryl]

If RP is a group IV it's not the same as RL which is a group V. That makes RP a PAO and RL is an ester based oil. For the stress a Honda will put on the oil there is probably no difference for street use. Both are good oils. I'd pick either one over conventional oil, especially if I was going to use a 5w-20 oil.

[john802]

Base Oil are divided into 5 groups:


Group I (Solvent Freezing) - Group I base oils are the least refined of all of the groups. They are usually a mix of different hydrocarbon chains with little or no uniformity. While some automotive oils on the market use Group I stocks, they are generally used in less demanding applications.

Group II (Hydroprocessing and Refining) - Group II base oils are common in mineral-based motor oils currently available on the market. They have fair to good performance in lubricating properties such as volatility, oxidative stability and flash/fire points. They have only fair performance in areas such as pour point, cold crank viscosity and extreme pressure wear.

Group III (Hydroprocessing and Refining) Group III base oils are subjected to the highest level of mineral oil refining of the base oil groups. Although they are not chemically engineered, they offer good performance in a wide range of attributes as well as good molecular uniformity and stability. They are commonly mixed with additives and marketed as synthetic or semi-synthetic products. Group III base oil products have become more common in America during the past decade.

Group IV (Chemical Reactions Group) - Group IV base oils are chemically engineered synthetic base stocks. Polyalphaolefins (PAOs) are a common example of a synthetic base stock. Synthetics, when combined with additives, offer excellent performance over a wide range of lubricating properties. They have very stable chemical compositions and highly uniform molecular chains. Group IV base oils are becoming more common in synthetic and synthetic-blend products for automotive and industrial applications.

Group V - Group V base oils are used primarily in the creation of oil additives. Esters and polyolesters are both common Group V base oils used in the formulation of oil additives. Group V oils exhibit a wide variety of properties specific to each individual oil's formulation. Group V base oils are generally not used as base oils themselves, but add beneficial properties to other base oils.

[Dac]

Hi,john802 and Larryl you guys are correct,Red Line is indeed a group V oil and Royal Purple is a group IV.
Thank you guys.
Dac

[N_Jay]

Originally posted by Dac
Hi,john802 and Larryl you guys are correct,Red Line is indeed a group V oil and Royal Purple is a group IV.
Thank you guys.
Dac

And the best part is that for most drivers IT DOES NOT MATTER!

[Bugshu]

Hi Dac,

As you know, Ive written in the past that Im a big fan of Royal Purple oils. Its important to run superior oils to compensate for the Honda 20 viscosity requirements.

I doubt you will beat the Redline oil as to basestock quality but the Royal Purple is a fantastic oil. I put it in my Dads sludgemonster Camry and hes running 6000 mile oil change intervals with the Royal Purple without any sludge problems !!!!!

Fantastic Oil and I recommend it.

If you arent abusing your Pilot at high revs then the Royal Purple is going to be hard to beat. Im a fan of Moly and the RP is one of the last true synthetics that has high amounts of Moly in its add packs.

RP is a great oil and their racing lines might be the best you can buy.

The consumer lines with good detergents should be a quality oil for you if you keep the OCI (oil change interval) between 5000-7500 miles.

Happy Piloting to You,



Bugshu

[Dac]

Hi to all and Happy New Year !,
Bugshu,what's your opinion on Mos2 additives ?,i have used it extensively in my BMW's engine,transmission and differential with great success.I still add it to every oil change because the bimmer now sits at 185.000 Kms and runs like a charm.This supplemental additive was added to Mobil 1 synthetic.
I think once the Pilot gets up there in kilometers i'll start using it in the Pilot as well,what do you think ?

P.S. N_Jay,you'll be surprised to find out how many people it really matters what goes into their cars engines




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Thank you.
Dac

[N_Jay]

Originally posted by Dac

P.S. N_Jay,you'll be surprised to find out how many people it really matters what goes into their cars engines

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Thank you.
Dac

Lots of people "care" (feel it is important).

In very few cases does it MATTER (Make a difference)!

[Dac]

Hi N_Jay,since i live in Canada and the winters are very punishing on things (mechanical) and the summers can be the exact opposite,here at times can be -35 Celsius or +35 Celsius,now what would you use in your car if you really "cared" about your investment ?
Dac

[N_Jay]

Originally posted by Dac
Hi N_Jay,since i live in Canada and the winters are very punishing on things (mechanical) and the summers can be the exact opposite,here at times can be -35 Celsius or +35 Celsius,now what would you use in your car if you really "cared" about your investment ?
Dac

That would be a good reason to use a 0W20 oil, for the low temps.

The highs are normal lots of places.

But I bet even after 150,000 mile you could not find significant differences between types of oils.

[Dac]

Hi N_Jay,
After 150.000 miles the only significant difference will be that the engine and transmission that was well maintained can go another 150.000 miles as when the other one has met it's maker prematurely .
Dac