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Old 01-22-2004, 08:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Unhappy Head light adjustment

I found a problem with head lights as the light throw in front of the vehicle was not upto my camry. Yesterday I went to the dealer for an oil change and asked the guy if it is possible to adjust the lights. He told me that it is factory fit and there is no way to adjust the lights. Is this true... any comments..
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I found a problem with head lights as the light throw in front of the vehicle was not upto my camry. Yesterday I went to the dealer for an oil change and asked the guy if it is possible to adjust the lights. He told me that it is factory fit and there is no way to adjust the lights. Is this true... any comments..
Many Pilot owners are experiencing "cut-off" type headlights for the first time. They may appear to not light as well on low beam, but (when adjusted properly) they are superior to old style lights.

That said, some are not adjusted properly from the Factory. Here is a thread that describes how to adjust them.

BTW, your dealer is feeding you

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I found a problem with head lights as the light throw in front of the vehicle was not upto my camry. Yesterday I went to the dealer for an oil change and asked the guy if it is possible to adjust the lights. He told me that it is factory fit and there is no way to adjust the lights. Is this true... any comments..
Next time you are at the dealer ask them very nicely to STOP LYING to you!

Yes, they are adjusted from the factory, yes they are adjustable.
If you rarely load your pilot you may want to adjust tyhem up a bit, but be warned, they probably ned to stay where they are, not to be too high when you do have the back loaded.
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kemosabe posted this page from the Service Manual showing how to do the vertical adjustment on the headlights. I never could figure out how a Phillips screwdriver would work, so I just used a 10mm socket on it instead.
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Also, the diagram may appear confusing at first, as there is a plastic cap that's easily visible, that looks like it's the adjustment point, but isn't. sfhondapilot modified the diagram to show the two areas better.
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Thanks guys.. I will try it at home...
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Just don't adjust them too high. I adjusted mine, went to use the high beams on a dark country road one night, and the adjustment was so high that the high beams were useless. I since had the dealer re-adjust them to the maximum upward adjustment that still passes inspection in Virginia, and am happy with it.
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Just don't adjust them too high. I adjusted mine, went to use the high beams on a dark country road one night, and the adjustment was so high that the high beams were useless. I since had the dealer re-adjust them to the maximum upward adjustment that still passes inspection in Virginia, and am happy with it.
And don't forget, the adjustment will change with loading.
Mine are set from the factory. They are a tad low with only front seat passengers, but are a bit too high when loaded for vacation.
(not enough to readjust, but shows why the factory sets them that way)
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Is it normal to have the left side a little lower then the right side? Since I put in the Sylvania silverstar. I notice that the left side is a little bit lower then the right side.. OR Do I need to adjust them to be even?


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Is it normal to have the left side a little lower then the right side? Since I put in the Sylvania silverstar. I notice that the left side is a little bit lower then the right side.. OR Do I need to adjust them to be even?


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The low beams usually have a slight upward tilt to the right.
This can make the left beam look a bit lower. There is nothing wrong with having both at the same level as long as neither one is aimed too high.
You want about 2 1/2 inches of drop at the top of the low beam for every 20 feet.
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Is it normal to have the left side a little lower then the right side? Since I put in the Sylvania silverstar. I notice that the left side is a little bit lower then the right side.. OR Do I need to adjust them to be even?


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My left one is a bit lower than the right one. Well, the headlight beam is, anyway.
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The low beams usually have a slight upward tilt to the right.
This can make the left beam look a bit lower. There is nothing wrong with having both at the same level as long as neither one is aimed too high.
You want about 2 1/2 inches of drop at the top of the low beam for every 20 feet.
In the tread I posted the link to, you stated:

"Remember don't aim them too high.
Specification is 2.1" drop at 25'.
You measure the height based n the little dot in the middle of the headlamp, and the cut off line of the low beam.
Cleaning the lenses before aiming makes the cut off line sharper."

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The Pilot is equipped with VOR (visual-optical-right) type headlamps.
Look at the lower inside corner of the lens, closest to the grille, and note the markings "HONDA HB2 VOR DOT".

The projected low beam has a jog or step in it, with the left-hand side slightly lower than the right-hand side. With a typical load (passengers, cargo and fuel) in the vehicle, the correct vertical aim for a VOR headlamp is achieved when the top of the right-hand side of the low beam pattern is coincident with a horizontal line intersecting the centers of the headlamps (approximately 34" off the ground, by my measurement) with no drop, at a 25' distance from a vertical wall on a level surface.

For more information you can check here: [http://www.mvlc.info/lighting_glossary.html]
or here: [http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/aim/aim.html].
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The Pilot is equipped with VOR (visual-optical-right) type headlamps.
Look at the lower inside corner of the lens, closest to the grille, and note the markings "HONDA HB2 VOR DOT".

The projected low beam has a jog or step in it, with the left-hand side slightly lower than the right-hand side. With a typical load (passengers, cargo and fuel) in the vehicle, the correct vertical aim for a VOR headlamp is achieved when the top of the right-hand side of the low beam pattern is coincident with a horizontal line intersecting the centers of the headlamps (approximately 34" off the ground, by my measurement) with no drop, at a 25' distance from a vertical wall on a level surface.

For more information you can check here: [http://www.mvlc.info/lighting_glossary.htm]
or here: [http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/aim/aim.html].
The Honda service manual tell you to set a drop in the headlights on low beam.
The center of the beam, where you measure, is fairly flat acroos the top and the higher beam starts futher to the right.
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The Honda service manual tell you to set a drop in the headlights on low beam.
The center of the beam, where you measure, is fairly flat acroos the top and the higher beam starts futher to the right.
Unless Honda is trying to simulate the effect of a full load in a partially loaded vehicle, the aim of a VOR headlamp should be adjusted so that there is no drop at the top of the right side of the low beam relative to the centerline of the headlamps.

Also, the vertical aim of a visually/optically aimable headlamp is not adjusted by using the center of the beam.
Either the left or the right side of the low beam is used depending upon whether it is a VOL or VOR design.
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