HELP! Oil pan repair or replacement

[GBPacor]

I recently took my 2004 Pilot for an oil change, the guy told me that the threads were coming off the plug and that the pan may need to be relaced or repaired. Can anyone give me an approximate cost on either of those? Thank you!

[Im2c0oL]

I think replace together with new seal + oil change will run you around $300-/+, I think it could be fix by bore and rethread and use a bigger nut probably a way to go and wouldn't cost much. not sure if machine shop will do this with it still on the vehicle, and requires to drain the oil and fill the oil after job is done...

[N_Jay]

I seem to recall a recent posting about a threaded insert.

Check with Tim.

[xGS]

Originally Posted by N_Jay

I seem to recall a recent posting about a threaded insert.

Try this: ++ TIME-SERT STRIPPED OIL DRAIN PAN THREAD REPAIR KITS ++ Stripped oil pan threads, leaking oil drain pan stripped, stripped oil pan oil drain pan stripped threads stripped drain pan threads, leaking oil pan threads leaking, leaking oil drain pan. dr

[94eg!]

How to Repair A Stripped Out Aluminum Oil Pan - YouTube

How to Repair A Stripped Out Aluminum Oil Pan - YouTube

BTW: This problem is caused by the people doing the oil changes (not using torque wrench). If you take it to the same place every time, you should try getting them to pay for any repairs needed. Prepare for a fight, but you can win.

Otherwise a new oil pan is $98 + shipping online and has no gasket. It's just glued in place with silicone. Part number is 11200-PGE-A00.

http://www.hondapartsnow.com/Page_Pr...0-%20Oil%20Pan

[GBPacor]

HELP! Update
First, thanks for all of your quick responses. Much appreciated! The shop says that they don't need to replace but can repair with a TIME SERT. Is $311 parts and labor a fair price for that? Thanks again

[xGS]

Originally Posted by GBPacor

The shop says that they don't need to replace but can repair with a TIME SERT.
Is $311 parts and labor a fair price for that?

The threaded insert and gasket they will install in your oil pan cost about $2.

The entire repair kit can be bought for just over $100.

How many hours of labor do they estimate to remove, repair and reinstall the pan?

For $300, I'd want the rest of the pieces in the repair kit after they use it.

[94eg!]

Don't you think that would leak?

BTW: I bet they aren't going to drop the oil pan to do that work. Probably worth about $50 in labor. And if they don't drop the pan, how on earth are they going to recover the metal shavings that get left behind. These are the things you want to ask.

[samc]

Yeah I would never recommend those repair kits with the drill bits, as said how would you get out the metal shavings? You would need to drop the oil pan, and if you were doing that you might as well change it with a new $98 one as linked above.

Btw I love Eric the car guy, he really knows what he's talking about and he replies to my questions. But I gotta wonder how his simple repair works. I mean if you removed the threads how is the new bolt holding in place? I'll ask him that one day.

Anyway labor should be 1 hour. I don't know about our pilot but usually it's just a series of allen screws/bolts and the silicone lube (or gasket) as said above. Me personally I would just buy a new oil pan but that's just me.

[94eg!]

I think the idea is the old plug didn't utilize all the threads in the oil pan. I don't know if this is true or not, I never tried this fix.

As for a pan swap, I'm afraid you might have to drop the sub-frame to get the pan out. I know that's an issue with the 04-08 TL. If that's the case, then you definitely need an alignment afterwards..

[Im2c0oL]

labor should be $100 or less..

[Type JDM]

I work at the Honda dealer and you do not need to drop the subframe to replace the oil pan on the pilots, but it's close to impossible to perform the time sert since the space between the drain bolt and subframe are so close. We just replace the oil pan. Also like 94eg said if its a place you usually take your car for oil changes they are most likely the ones that caused it to strip!

[jl_ss]

Originally Posted by 94eg!

As for a pan swap, I'm afraid you might have to drop the sub-frame to get the pan out. I know that's an issue with the 04-08 TL. If that's the case, then you definitely need an alignment afterwards..

Our 2005 required dropping of the sub frame and an alignment when the dealer replaced our pan because they stripped the threads at the previous oil change. The dealer paid for it all though becuase it was their fault.

[94eg!]

I would just take it for an estimate at the Honda dealer and then try and force the oil-change place to cover the cost of the PROPER replacment. Time-sert is a waste of time. Especially if you have to drop the pan anyways.

[rocky]

Get the job done right if you plan on keeping the car.
Anything else sounds like too risky