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rbetz 07-09-2002 07:02 PM

Auto Day/Night Mirror
 
Can any of you folks who have the day/night mirror installed explain the two buttons on the bottom of the mirror, one on each side? From the picture on the website it appears that they may turn on/off what appear to be two small lights to the inside of these two buttons? Hard to tell what they do from the picture and description online. My dealer says it will cost about $276 for the parts and installation. Is it worth it? The description online says it quickly installs using current mirror attachment but the mirror attachment that came standard with my Pilot doesn't look like the photo online. Any info would be appreciated.:confused:

PrG 07-09-2002 07:16 PM

Not that simple
 
I don't believe that installing the day night mirror will be as simple as mounting it into the existing attachments. The reason being, that the day night mirror, again speculation, is powered and needs to be connected into a power source that most likely will be your interior domelight.

PrG

rbetz 07-09-2002 07:22 PM

My Thoughts Exactly
 
Didn't think it would be such an easy installation. Think the dealer will have to handle this one.

The two 'buttons' and what appear to be small lights located on the bottom, outside of the mirror have me stumped as well.

hop23 07-09-2002 07:48 PM

I think hparts.com has the installation instructions online. And the Pilot web site indicates labor at 0.6hr.

ChiefPilot 07-09-2002 09:53 PM

rbetz...
 
The "lights" on the day/night mirror are actually one LED and one sensor. The left-most switch turns the automatic day/night function on and off. The LED indicates the position of the switch.

The other right-most button similarly controls the electronic compass function of the mirror and the associated display.

If you have an opportunity to review the installation instructions, you'll see that a power cable needs to be snaked down the driver's A-pillar and connected to the fuse box under the dash; ...Not all that difficult if you're handy.

banningjr 07-09-2002 09:56 PM

1. I let the dealer do the installation. Ripping out the roof is not my idea of fun. (especially with some of the issues already surrounding the edge of it.) My dealer had it listed as a 30min job so it was in the neighborhood of $35 to do it. Well worth the piece of mind.

2. The buttons - sorry folks no lights. The button on the left is to activate/ deactivate the mirror from its auto feature. The button on the right is for turning the compass on/ off as well as setting your current compass zone. My dealer did not do that part and it is probably just as well. If you travel anywhere with this thing you may want to change the zone so your compass is still correctly pointing to magnetic north.

It is rather larger compared to the regular mirror but I love the option.

Brett727272 07-09-2002 10:43 PM

Picture?
 
Could someone post a picture of the mirror from the interior? I'm a bit worried about it being too big.

autobahn 07-10-2002 02:44 AM

Instructions On-Line
 
http://www.collegehillshonda.com/ins...lot/mirror.pdf

PrG 07-10-2002 04:13 AM

Compass
 
So how does the compass work ... you have to use an actual compass and point the vehicle north in order to calibrate the mirror? Sounds like too much work, there isn't some type of gyro or magnetic system that once it turns on it is ready to go ? Compasses are great but my little GPS is a much better option.

PrG

rbetz 07-10-2002 08:26 AM

Responses
 
Thanks for all the responses. This will make for a more informed decision.

jfrano 07-10-2002 10:01 AM

Part of the setup routine, which my dealer missed, is to Program your Zone. The directions have a zone chart. I believe you hold both buttons simultaneous and then the zone numbers come up. If you don't you'll likely have the wrong reading. The directions also mention that the compass may malfunction, in which case it suggests to drive in a circle slowly so the compass can recalibrate itself (I guess I shouldn't try that in the Lincoln Tunnel or even worse, the George Washington Bridge!)

It is NOT an easy installation.

I didn't like the original mirror, it seemed that you couldn't get the entire rearview top to bottom, in the mirror.

I'm an outdoorsy guy, so I like the compass and the outside temp display.

Joe

rbetz 07-10-2002 10:06 AM

Worth It?
 
Is it worth $270+ for parts/labor to get this mirror?

banningjr 07-10-2002 12:42 PM

Prg, you don't have to face north. You get an actual list with it that helps you set your zone.

It is bigger than the regular mirror but that one should be in a Civic! I like it, it gives the interior a better feel.

Len 07-10-2002 12:56 PM

I like it a lot, and am glad I paid for it.

banningjr 07-10-2002 02:39 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Here are some shots for you as well as the paper they give you with the mirror.

banningjr 07-10-2002 02:40 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Front

banningjr 07-10-2002 02:40 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Rear...notice the zone map.

bengelking 07-10-2002 05:02 PM

pictures
 
Your workbench looks like mine:D

I'm really glad I got the compass and auto-dimmer. IMHO should have been standard equipment.

Brett727272 07-10-2002 05:39 PM

Thank you!
 
banningjr, thank you very very very much for the pictures! they really helped me in my consideration of this accessory. :4:

I think it is a wee bit bigger than the standard mirror, but for the uses of it, its worth it.

MDXlite 07-12-2002 12:13 AM

Made by Donnelly
 
If anyone cares, these mirrors are made by Donnelly, a popular OEM maker (ie Audi). They make one with temp and compass for the Odyssey (same mount) and is a popular dialogue on the Odyclub site.
I installed one on our Odyssey a found it to be pretty easy. I have one in the box for the Pilot and it's the same mirror minus the temp since the Pilot has it already.
Calibrating it is very easy assuming you can drive in a circle and the auto dim works very well.
It's worth it and I agree, should be standard at least on the EX or EX-L.

Cheapskates.

PrG 07-12-2002 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by banningjr
Here are some shots for you as well as the paper they give you with the mirror.
Impressive garage ... very organized ...

PrG ;) :2: ;)

rbetz 07-15-2002 08:42 AM

Got It
 
Got it installed on Friday, and first impression is that it's bigger and the compas seems to be pretty accurate. Glad I did it.

SoapPlant 07-15-2002 12:58 PM

Convinced Me Too!
 
OK, so I thought I was going overboard with too many accessories the way it was, but now you've convinced me that I need this mirror too! Looks much nicer than the standard one, and I like the built in compass. Not sure why I need it, but its cool, and everyone else has one in their car!

Noticed some Rain-X on your work bench. Was always told that stuff was a pain-in-the-ass, until I tried it, and now I love it. A little elbow grease up front is worth the results...

46 days and counting...

SoapPlant 07-15-2002 01:01 PM

Convinced Me Too!
 
OK, so I thought I was going overboard with too many accessories the way it was, but now you've convinced me that I need this mirror too! Looks much nicer than the standard one, and I like the built in compass. Not sure why I need it, but its cool, and everyone else has one in their car!

46 days and counting...

Monkey8 07-15-2002 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by banningjr
Prg, you don't have to face north. You get an actual list with it that helps you set your zone.

It is bigger than the regular mirror but that one should be in a Civic! I like it, it gives the interior a better feel.

Yes I like the look of this mirror, but not sure if it justifies the expense since I already have the driver and passager reading light, which comes with the Pilot, and dont need the mirror to provide that. The Direction LED looks nice, but that is all it gives me just look nice.

I wish that it also provide the amount left in the gas tank and which how many miles to go before its empty. I think that would be use information to have. Many type of SUV have this. I wonder why it is not offer as an Option on the pilot.

rbetz 07-15-2002 04:47 PM

No Lights
 
The auto day/night mirror doesn't provide driver and passager reading lights. The 'lights' on either side of the compass you may be referring to are actually used to calibrate the compass and turn the auto day/night feature on/off.

SoapPlant 07-18-2002 03:13 PM

Re: Made by Donnelly
 
Quote:

Originally posted by MDXlite
If anyone cares, these mirrors are made by Donnelly, a popular OEM maker (ie Audi). They make one with temp and compass for the Odyssey (same mount) and is a popular dialogue on the Odyclub site.
I installed one on our Odyssey a found it to be pretty easy. I have one in the box for the Pilot and it's the same mirror minus the temp since the Pilot has it already.
Calibrating it is very easy assuming you can drive in a circle and the auto dim works very well.
It's worth it and I agree, should be standard at least on the EX or EX-L.

Cheapskates.

Hey MDXlite,

I contacted Donnelly based on your post above, and inquired if this was available for my '98 Accord. Here was the response that I received:

Hi Chris,

We do not offer the prismatic mirrors for aftermarket. We only offer the electrochromatic (auto-dimming) mirrors. I am attaching the installation instructions for you to review. If you have any other questions please let me know. Thank-you for inquiring.

(See attached file: 19680 C-T IxI Aft Mrkt Rev B 1-17-02.doc)

Sincerely,

Bonnie Hampson
Customer Service
Donnelly Corp.
616-786-7683

According to what I saw, the prismatic mirrors are the ones with the temperature and compass.

Any thoughts? It sounded like you've bought from them before?

SoapPlant 07-18-2002 03:27 PM

Oh Forget It!
 
OK MDXlite, Just forget it! I got another reply from them indicating that they make the Electrochromatic (EC) with a compass/temperature for $229.95 or an EC with compass/temperature & map light for $219.95. I guess I was confused on "electrochromatic" versus "prismatic" - must be different technology.

www.donnelly.com

Just trying to get my posts up (yeah, that's it!)...

MDXlite 07-18-2002 05:50 PM

Just trying to get my posts up (yeah, that's it!)...

Yeah, me, too.;)

Like I said, we installed a Donnelly that I ordered from them in our '02 Ody and I would venture to say that it's actually a little better quality than the standard mirror.

For those with the Honda day/night mirror, look on the back and you can see the name Donnelly molded into the plastic. No matter, because Donnelly doesn't sell the equivelant mirror and it would cost about the same anyway.

Dano 07-31-2002 12:29 AM

tough to install?
 
Any idea of how tough it is to install the auto dimming mirror?

ChiefPilot 07-31-2002 08:39 AM

...Dano
 
Here is the link to the installation instructions for the day/night mirror:

http://www.collegehillshonda.com/ins...lot/mirror.pdf

It appears as if the most difficult part might be hooking the wiring up to the underdash fuse block. :eek:

Check it out.

sbabcock 07-31-2002 10:22 AM

Auto Day night Temp?
 
Here's a silly question:
Can I buy the Odyssey Auto Day/Night with Temp and Direction and install it in the Pilot? That way, I could see the temp there and keep the odometer on the trip meter. Or, I can compare temperatures!

MDXlite 07-31-2002 01:17 PM

Not silly
 
You definately could. Having installed the Odyssey mirror there is just a wire harness with a sensor that goes down by the front bumper, the rest is the same.

bengelking 08-01-2002 11:02 PM

Odyssey
 
Does the Odyssey mirror have the temperature and the compass in the mirror or just the temperature? I've got the Pilot mirror with the compass and I would really miss it.


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