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Old 04-25-2007, 11:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I just bought a 2003 pilot and wondering what wax you guys use and how often you wax your pilot. any advice would be appreciated.
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Many use Klasse AIO, which involves a multi-step process. Meguiars NXT seems to work pretty well for me and the shine lasts about 3-4 months.
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A while back there was a Zaino lovefest in this forum. I tried the whole system and the results were very good but wwaaaaayy more work than it was worth. I never found a polish as difficult to remove and buff.

NowI use Meguiar's. It goes on and off about as easy as anything I've ever used and the application I put on last September is still holding up pretty well.
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Old 04-26-2007, 12:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Klasse AIO

Meguiar's NXT wax

Menzerna Acrylic Shield

With a Porter Cable, the AIO and NXT are very easy to apply.
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A while back there was a Zaino lovefest in this forum. I tried the whole system and the results were very good but wwaaaaayy more work than it was worth. I never found a polish as difficult to remove and buff.

NowI use Meguiar's. It goes on and off about as easy as anything I've ever used and the application I put on last September is still holding up pretty well.
If you found it very difficult to remove, you may have used too much. A buddy and I did his Mustang and my Pilot in about 6 hours last fall, and although it involved multiple steps, it was easier to remove than regular wax and is still holding up very well. I had an advantange as my friend had used it before and showed me how
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Eagle One Nanowax!!!!!

Good results, easy to remove.
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Anyone have experience with:

Klasse AIO & Klasse High Gloss Sealant

How many coates of the sealant is recommended?

also, heard that a coat of carnuba should be applied after sealer?

thoughts?
thanks...
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2 coats meguiars #20 polymer sealant for even coating - they say 24 hours between to let 1st coat cure

24 hours after 2nd coating of #20, 1 coat of meguiars high tech yellow wax...

it seems like a process, but each one only takes about 1/2 hour...you just need 3 consecutive days to do it!

#20 for incredible protection and hightech yellow wax for the "wet" look...great with our black car!
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Anyone have experience with:

Klasse AIO & Klasse High Gloss Sealant

How many coats of the sealant is recommended?

also, heard that a coat of carnuba should be applied after sealer?

thoughts?
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I used both and it wasn't a big deal. I clay barred the Pilot since it had never been done. You don't need to clay bar often, maybe just once year or every two years depending o if you park under trees, travel a lot etc.

Then I used the Klasse AIO. Easy to use, Don't use a lot. A little goes a long ways.

I let it dry and then put on the sealant. Again, a little goes a long ways. I use both at least twice a year, once in the spring as soon as it warms up enough to wash and wax and then again in the fall around Sept or Oct trying to get a good coat on before winter sets in.

During the summer I just use the Klasse AIO in between like after long trips or when it looks dirty.

Oh yeah and use Stoner's Invisiglass, far better than Windex, and its recommended by Jay.
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I used both and it wasn't a big deal. I clay barred the Pilot since it had never been done. You don't need to clay bar often, maybe just once year or every two years depending o if you park under trees, travel a lot etc.

Then I used the Klasse AIO. Easy to use, Don't use a lot. A little goes a long ways.

I let it dry and then put on the sealant. Again, a little goes a long ways. I use both at least twice a year, once in the spring as soon as it warms up enough to wash and wax and then again in the fall around Sept or Oct trying to get a good coat on before winter sets in.

During the summer I just use the Klasse AIO in between like after long trips or when it looks dirty.

Oh yeah and use Stoner's Invisiglass, far better than Windex, and its recommended by Jay.
I'm in the AIO camp - very easy to use and long-lasting results. I prep with a claybar like Sportymonk, then finish off my detailing by polishing the glass with Stoners Invisible Glass.
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Thanks - how many coats of sealant do you guys use?

Also, does anyone have pics? curious how good a silver pilot could look...
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If you found it very difficult to remove, you may have used too much. A buddy and I did his Mustang and my Pilot in about 6 hours last fall, and although it involved multiple steps, it was easier to remove than regular wax and is still holding up very well. I had an advantange as my friend had used it before and showed me how
Nope. First I followed the directions to the letter. Then, I experimented with all possible variables: Using less / using more; leaving it on longer / removing it sooner; cooler day / warmer day; I even tried it in the sun, and I would normally never do that with a polish or wax. Almost no change no matter what I did. I used up the whole kit experimenting.

Meguiar's just brushes off like dust, works almost as well and lasts just as long.
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Thanks - how many coats of sealant do you guys use?

Also, does anyone have pics? curious how good a silver pilot could look...
Silver will never give you the results you want to see. You just have to trust that the work was worth it, having faith that your baby is protected from the elements.

A deep dark blue Scion, on the other hand, made it all worthwhile, with the highly reflective gloss, and very easy washups afterwards.
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what sealant are you guys talking about? So you wax the car and then seal it? I don't understand. I have always just waxed..........and clayed then waxed. I have used Zaino and Mcguires. I like the Mcguires better.
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what sealant are you guys talking about? So you wax the car and then seal it? I don't understand. I have always just waxed..........and clayed then waxed. I have used Zaino and Mcguires. I like the Mcguires better.
"Klasse All in one and the Klasse Sealant Glaze have a reputation that speaks for itself. These state-of-the-art products will polish and protect the painted surfaces on your vehicle. Klasse Wax Products produce the depth and clarity of a high quality carnauba wax but lasts much longer. One or two applications of Klasse wax a year will keep your car protected and looking great!

Acrylic is the Solution. Acrylic is different than wax, silicones, and polymers. This polish will bond to your car’s surface just like the previously mentioned treatments, but it will not cause any change to your paint, and you don’t have to worry about drying time. Klasse All In One dries as fast as you apply it, and there is no risk of hazing or streaking. All-In-One contains no abrasives or silicones, and does not stain plastic, vinyl or rubber trim. It can be used on any non-porous surface, and in addition to car care it is also approved for marine and aviation use.

First introduced in 1979, Klasse All In One Polish changed everything about the way people polished cars. Klasse All In One Polish will remove oxidation, minor swirls, old wax, and other surface blemishes; leaving a beautiful and deep acrylic shine. Unlike some formulas, Klasse will not penetrate or change paint.

Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze is a highly concentrated acrylic formula glaze for new cars and oxidation-free surfaces. High Gloss Glaze provides an additional protective layer over the All-In-One with an exceptionally brilliant mirror-like shine.

High Gloss Sealant Glaze creates an elastic, non-chip, shrink-proof, heat and scratch resistant - protective seal against ultraviolet rays, salt water, acid rain and industrial pollutants for up to 12 months. Use this glaze on all paints with or without clear coats, glass, fiberglass, Plexiglass, plastics, metal surfaces, enamel, tiles, Formica and all non-porous surfaces. It is anti-static, non-abrasive and contains no ingredients harmful to paint, metal or plastic."

The above taken from http://www.autogeek.net/klasse.html?...FQ5uSgodehNnPA
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