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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 03-18-2017, 01:51 PM Thread Starter
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I've finally, hopefully, settled on the audio system in my 2017 Pilot EXL. Here are the details:

  • Tweeters: JL Audio C3-100ct with C3-650 Crossovers
  • Front Doors: JL Audio C2-650cw
  • Rear Doors: JL Audio C2-650x
  • Subwoofer: JL Audio Micro Sub CP208LG-W3v3
  • Sub Amplifier: NVX MVPA1

The installation of the oversized 1" tweeters into the factory location required some fairly extensive trimming of the external trim ring. But once done and connected to the crossovers set at -4db, the sound was spot on for my tastes.

The door installations are detailed elsewhere in this forum and are pretty straightforward.

As for the amplifier, I fabricated a bracket that would allow the amp to mounted in the factory location of the passenger footwell. Not only is this location a perfect fit, it required a minimal wiring run and is easily adjustable while remaining hidden. Of note, I was not able to locate the subwoofer output wires in the loom running to the cargo area. I know others have had success here but I believe that was with higher models than the EXL that have the additional amplifier. Instead, I had to remove the head unit and tapped the output there. There is a completely separate wiring harness on the EXL radio just for the sub output so it's easy to spot.

Lastly came the sub. I chose to go with the JL Audio Micro Sub because it was down fireable, met the height requirements of the little cargo trunk and has a great reputation for clean, accurate bass. And it delivers on all of that in spades. While it doesn't rattle the whole car, it provides for a massive increase in musical depth and feel. It's capable of hitting hard in digital/rap tracks and can power through deep classical instruments as well.

In all, for a system that doesn't alter the factory signal and has just the sub amp, I couldn't be happier. It's a truly amazing transformation from stock.
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Clean installation of those tweeters. Nicely done.

Just to clarify, are you feeding the factory "front door speaker" signals into the JL passive crossover and splitting off the tweeter and front door speaker wires from there? Are you using factory speaker wires or did you run your own? Just curious.

Spring has sprung ( again ), and my garage is no longer a walk-in fridge or freezer.
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Clean installation of those tweeters. Nicely done.

Just to clarify, are you feeding the factory "front door speaker" signals into the JL passive crossover and splitting off the tweeter and front door speaker wires from there? Are you using factory speaker wires or did you run your own? Just curious.

Spring has sprung ( again ), and my garage is no longer a walk-in fridge or freezer.
Thanks! It took a steady hand with the dremel but it was worth it in the end.

As for the wiring, the door speakers run off the factory wiring in that location just as before. What I ended up doing with the tweeters is taking the stock signal and making that the input on the crossover. Then the tweeter output from the crossover feeds the new tweeters. The midrange output is left alone.

I did this because it provided, to my tastes, a much smoother sound than the inline crossovers and gave me the ability to reduce the sound as well.

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2017 honda pilot sucks with the factory speakers. It's fine on mid volume but once you turn it up the audio starts to crack and the quality sounds horrible.
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2017 honda pilot sucks with the factory speakers. It's fine on mid volume but once you turn it up the audio starts to crack and the quality sounds horrible.
What model do you have?

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I have 17'Touring and I want to upgrade my audio. I was planning to replace the door speakers first. I've read that it's not that simple to make a difference by swapping the speakers. Is that true?
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I have 17'Touring and I want to upgrade my audio. I was planning to replace the door speakers first. I've read that it's not that simple to make a difference by swapping the speakers. Is that true?
This is a complicated question that largely depends on your listening preferences. IMO, these are the top three critical areas to address first when tackling the stock audio system:

1- Disable the ANC system (the stock subwoofer actually provides a little fill when the ANC is off)
2- Replace the stock tweeters (a quality 0.75" silk dome tweeter will provide a very noticeable difference)
3- Sound deadening (especially in the doors, the Pilot is a very loud vehicle with little to no real NVH barriers)

Just swapping out the door speakers is almost a waste of time. Unless you intend to put an aftermarket amplifier on a set of quality speakers along with copious amounts of sound deadening, there just won't be a big difference worthy of the trouble.

On another note, I've been quiet here on the forum since I have, yet again, started from scratch with my audio system. This new SQ build up will show proper sound deadening techniques along with a factory signal modifier, DSP and serious amplification. It's time to see just how good this cabin can be!
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You're teasing us here. Show us the goods! 😍
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i think the stock system in the touring and elite have decent lows and bass from the sub (except using the tuner because it seems that when using fm radio it puts the audio in limp mode and seems to weakened/disable the sub) but other sources xm, usb, android/apple, etc its not bad. BUT the highs are lacking, even with treble all the way up
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Looks great!

Drove straight off the lot and ordered my stuff. Love the sound and staging. You will enjoy!

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This is a complicated question that largely depends on your listening preferences. IMO, these are the top three critical areas to address first when tackling the stock audio system:



1- Disable the ANC system (the stock subwoofer actually provides a little fill when the ANC is off)

2- Replace the stock tweeters (a quality 0.75" silk dome tweeter will provide a very noticeable difference)

3- Sound deadening (especially in the doors, the Pilot is a very loud vehicle with little to no real NVH barriers)



Just swapping out the door speakers is almost a waste of time. Unless you intend to put an aftermarket amplifier on a set of quality speakers along with copious amounts of sound deadening, there just won't be a big difference worthy of the trouble.



On another note, I've been quiet here on the forum since I have, yet again, started from scratch with my audio system. This new SQ build up will show proper sound deadening techniques along with a factory signal modifier, DSP and serious amplification. It's time to see just how good this cabin can be!


When are you planning your build? I am gathering everything I need now, in fact just waiting on UPS for my wiring and sound deadening. Already have speakers, amp, just pick up my dsp (jl twk d8 and fix 82.) Still have to build sub enclosure as well but have it planned out. I'm shooting for mid July. Loved your tweet install post and am looking forward to your build. Would love to see some detail with how you tap into the head unit. I'm planning on just after the factory amp and hoping I can fit the fix 82 up there somewhere in the kick panel or behind the glove box. From there I can run an optical out to the twk back by the amp. Best case scenario there is a digital signal in the factory amp the fix can handle (very doubtful.) Anyway if I get to mine first I'll try to take lots of pics. Can't wait to get it done.


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