I made out like a bandit on by wife's pilot back in November '03. We bought a 2004 EX-L Sagebrush Pearl for $2900 under invoice. After getting what I thought was a bad deal at about $500 under invoice, I called 3 dealerships and spoke to their Internet Sales person. One of the dealerships gave me the price I wanted on the first call but did not have the color we wanted the other two said they would get back to me the next day if they could meet MY price. Well only one called back but they did have what I wanted and for the price I was willing to pay. I actually put the down payment on my credit card while stuck in traffic. We love the Pilot so far, but I wish I got to drive it more.